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Is this something that only happens to F series S models? Does manual or auto trans have more failure of the mounts? Seems like a part that shouldn’t fail.
Thanks for the reply! Only have to do pass side, ftom what I understand that’s the common one to go out! Dealer here on maui wants 1400 to do it! And it’s a cpo vehicle so I’m pissed! No way paying that, so long as I know it comes out, I’ll give it a shot! Was just stressing the ac stuff!
I can confirm that the engine mount is not covered under the CPO warranty even if it is not listed on Mini's Items Not Covered list - https://www.miniusa.com/content/dam/...R-4-1-2014.pdf My dealer wanted $1600. I got it replaced at Mini Werks in San Carlos, CA for less than $500. This is definitely a common issue. My 2nd Mini is a 2017 F55, At about 22K, the dealer happily replaced its engine mount under the standard warranty. I image this is less a problem in a non-S model as the engine mount does not have to bear as much torque.
It was originally bought so to help me remove the water pump bolts on the R56 (2nd gen) MCS. Luckily it comes with both 8mm and 10 mm, and it comes in really handy in very tight spots. Kinda expensive though. Will you sell me your old mount? Even if it's torn, I want to buy it, too. I'm going to use it to do some research on how much reinforcement rubber to add and report the result back to the forum for everyone's benefit. Just need an old mount to work with.
Can you get a picture from the headlight side? It's much easier to see if it's bad from that angle
I think I had a hard time taking a picture as there is practically no room even for a flashlight. I can try taking a shot of that side.
The second image shows 2 cracks(?), have you seen it?
Here is the image I could somehow take from the other side of this engine mount:
I had those lines and they appeared to end up just being creases, not tears. Like where it would be flexing and keeping that area clean. I'd be interested to get your take on what they are.
I had those lines and they appeared to end up just being creases, not tears. Like where it would be flexing and keeping that area clean. I'd be interested to get your take on what they are.
Possible that 2 long lines are creases, but what about the one across? Seems like a scratch of some sort. I also provided other side images earlier. Have you seen it?
Imperial, I don't think your engine mount failed. Just an opinion. Here are pictures of my old one I took off.
Item's #1 Those are creases, and on mine they are about the thickness of a needle deep.
Item # 3 : I wasn't sure if this is what you were referring to as a scratch? But it's a seam in the original rubber mold (it kinda goes upward and to the right in the picture
Item 4: is your photo, but that seems kinda like # 1. Insignificant. I have another place on mine that looks similar, but it doesn't seem like an actual part failure. It's just a super tiny tear. I think once that tear gets to a certain size, it will stay because the meaty part of the mount is still in tact.
Good luck anyway.
Imperial, I don't think your engine mount failed. Just an opinion. Here are pictures of my old one I took off.
Item's #1 Those are creases, and on mine they are about the thickness of a needle deep.
Item # 3 : I wasn't sure if this is what you were referring to as a scratch? But it's a seam in the original rubber mold (it kinda goes upward and to the right in the picture
Item 4: is your photo, but that seems kinda like # 1. Insignificant. I have another place on mine that looks similar, but it doesn't seem like an actual part failure. It's just a super tiny tear. I think once that tear gets to a certain size, it will stay because the meaty part of the mount is still in tact.
Good luck anyway.
Thanks for images and info. I will be going to MINI about transmission mount making creaking noise when cornering left(TSB exists) and possibly because of that, car started to make some knocking/banging noise when stationary at traffic light OR on a cold engine can happen even in P. To me it feels like some type of vibration through the chassis making this noise.
Has anyone looked into the engine/transmission mounts from the 2020 JCW Clubman? The 2020 Clubman JCW advertises upgraded engine mounts due to the new 300+ HP engine revision.
It appears F54/F55/F56 shared engine mounts before the 2020 JCW Clubman, So I’d assume the mounting points are the same, just stronger to handle the extra power?
Imperial, I don't think your engine mount failed. Just an opinion. Here are pictures of my old one I took off.
Item's #1 Those are creases, and on mine they are about the thickness of a needle deep.
Item # 3 : I wasn't sure if this is what you were referring to as a scratch? But it's a seam in the original rubber mold (it kinda goes upward and to the right in the picture
Item 4: is your photo, but that seems kinda like # 1. Insignificant. I have another place on mine that looks similar, but it doesn't seem like an actual part failure. It's just a super tiny tear. I think once that tear gets to a certain size, it will stay because the meaty part of the mount is still in tact.
Good luck anyway.
That tear on #4 location is where the shakes will be apparent once it goes into a larger tear. It's what I've been wanting to R&D on a better solution. When I got my F56 with 60k miles, that tear has progressed almost all the way into the base of the mount. Car shakes and shutters badly on idle and there's a weird squish upon aggressive driving in gear changes. I think that location while brand new, should be re-enforced with more rubber weld from the get-go.
That tear on #4 location is where the shakes will be apparent once it goes into a larger tear. It's what I've been wanting to R&D on a better solution. When I got my F56 with 60k miles, that tear has progressed almost all the way into the base of the mount. Car shakes and shutters badly on idle and there's a weird squish upon aggressive driving in gear changes. I think that location while brand new, should be re-enforced with more rubber weld from the get-go.
My car doesn't seem to shake/vibrate except for normal engine movement but at some traffic lights I may feel the engine running(small vibration) and other times I don't feel any and it feels like engine is off(it isn't). Don't know if it is connected to any engine/transmission mount. I took my car on Wednesday to the dealer and notified them about few issues including transmission mount TSB, Engine stabilizer link TSB and also this passenger side engine mount.(asked them to check and see if it is crack or a crease). Got 2020 F56 loaner car and I took the picture of the sticker from passenger side engine mount to compare part #:
Last edited by Imperial; Apr 17, 2020 at 12:39 PM.
Anyone know if this is an issue with the F56 JCW which has higher torque than the S? Ugh - you would think MINI would have learned their lesson after all of the failed engine mounts on the R53...
Anyone know if this is an issue with the F56 JCW which has higher torque than the S? Ugh - you would think MINI would have learned their lesson after all of the failed engine mounts on the R53...
Maybe if the part lasts at least the first 4 years, then MINI is fine with it. After that usually regular warranty expires and customer would be paying out of pocket.
Maybe if the part lasts at least the first 4 years, then MINI is fine with it. After that usually regular warranty expires and customer would be paying out of pocket.
Ya, I’ve seen that one before... MINI/BMW is just killing their reputation by this sort of thing. I like the thought of looking into the 302 Hp Clubman JCW part. I also liked the fix above of just filling it with gunk so it never fails again. This will be a wait and see game for me.
Ya, I’ve seen that one before... MINI/BMW is just killing their reputation by this sort of thing. I like the thought of looking into the 302 Hp Clubman JCW part. I also liked the fix above of just filling it with gunk so it never fails again. This will be a wait and see game for me.
Yes, I have seen some users fill the mount with some stuff to make it stronger. The interesting thing is that some people had passenger engine mount fail at low mile mark(20K or so). I haven't heard or seen any of my cars having bad engine mounts early. Usually these mounts could/might fail after 7 or more years where cars are over a 100K but not early. Could it be that some drivers hit deep potholes which in turn damages these mounts?
I hope my dealership wont' take long to look into transmission mount, engine stabilizer link, passenger side engine mount and some vibration noise which seem to sound throughout the chassis. Here is the link to that sound: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1hC...JJQEo76pfU6pNE
Upper motor mount was replaced under warranty some time ago. Now the lower mount was done. Dealer noticed the failure while doing oil change on my 2016 f54 1.5l.
