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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:07 AM
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Thanks for the answer. I’ll ask my local dealer if they have it and can install it if I get to import the kit from USA.
Get a price...............ordering the JCW tune from the factory is a $1600 up charge (installed as the car is being built). Originally dealerships were charging upwards of $2900 for the kit and install (back in 2015). Others could get it installed from other shops for $1600-$1700... IN passing when we were ordering our 2019, I asked the sales guy about their JCW install and he said $1600, but I'dwager that's before the labor charges are tacked on.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by USA-RET
Get a price...............ordering the JCW tune from the factory is a $1600 up charge (installed as the car is being built). Originally dealerships were charging upwards of $2900 for the kit and install (back in 2015). Others could get it installed from other shops for $1600-$1700... IN passing when we were ordering our 2019, I asked the sales guy about their JCW install and he said $1600, but I'dwager that's before the labor charges are tacked on.
My car is a 2016 cooper s with the JCW exterior package with only 6000 miles, just bought it.
and seen the kit on mini in USA for around a 1000 bucks right now so it’s tempting, but as I live abroad hace to import it and then installed.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by USA-RET
Get a price...............ordering the JCW tune from the factory is a $1600 up charge (installed as the car is being built). Originally dealerships were charging upwards of $2900 for the kit and install (back in 2015). Others could get it installed from other shops for $1600-$1700... IN passing when we were ordering our 2019, I asked the sales guy about their JCW install and he said $1600, but I'dwager that's before the labor charges are tacked on.
I was under the impression that only MINI dealers could install the tune, even though the rest is just hardware to bolt on and wire to 12V & ground.

Can non-MINI, non-BMW dealers load the tune into the car? I’ve never gotten a straight yes or no answer to this question.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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My indépendant Mini/BMW tech ordered the kit and installed it for me. Including the tune. He has access to the BMW computer system so he can install/upgrade software too. He also upgraded the software when he installed the BBK for me.

Csasb: Make sure you're looking at the tuning kit for the S and not the JCW. The kit for the S includes the tune, but the kit for the JCW is only the exhaust system. For $1000 you're probably looking at the exhaust only.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by USA-RET
Get a price...............ordering the JCW tune from the factory is a $1600 up charge (installed as the car is being built). Originally dealerships were charging upwards of $2900 for the kit and install (back in 2015). Others could get it installed from other shops for $1600-$1700... IN passing when we were ordering our 2019, I asked the sales guy about their JCW install and he said $1600, but I'dwager that's before the labor charges are tacked on.

The current MSRP for the JCW tuning kit is $947. This is a clearance price below dealer cost to sell off any tuning kits left. Once sold out it will no longer be available.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 04:57 PM
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My indépendant Mini/BMW tech ordered the kit and installed it for me. Including the tune. He has access to the BMW computer system so he can install/upgrade software too. He also upgraded the software when he installed the BBK for me.

Csasb: Make sure you're looking at the tuning kit for the S and not the JCW. The kit for the S includes the tune, but the kit for the JCW is only the exhaust system. For $1000 you're probably looking at the exhaust only.
Help for the input vetavette. The tune is included then, hope it can be installed in here.
About the price, its the clearance price is going on now at miniusa. It’s for the S according to the web, as stated by Charrigan.
I quoted locally (peru) the kit and it’s out of stock and costs around 5k!! For that difference I could have gotten a JCW instead of the S I just bought.

My brother lives in Long Beach, so I usually buy through him or get them and ship to him and then I get them here, so that’s the best possibility.

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The current MSRP for the JCW tuning kit is $947. This is a clearance price below dealer cost to sell off any tuning kits left. Once sold out it will no longer be available.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Csasb
Help for the input vetavette. The tune is included then, hope it can be installed in here.
About the price, its the clearance price is going on now at miniusa. It’s for the S according to the web, as stated by Charrigan.
I quoted locally (peru) the kit and it’s out of stock and costs around 5k!! For that difference I could have gotten a JCW instead of the S I just bought.

My brother lives in Long Beach, so I usually buy through him or get them and ship to him and then I get them here, so that’s the best possibility.
Sounds like you have a plan. Your dealer should be able to install it for you. It actually took longer to program mine than to install the exhaust system. Good luck. You should definitely jump on one if you can get it for less than a grand.
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:24 PM
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Sounds like you have a plan. Your dealer should be able to install it for you. It actually took longer to program mine than to install the exhaust system. Good luck. You should definitely jump on one if you can get it for less than a grand.
Hope, thanks it goes as planed. In good opinion, with the JCW kit, would I go with the Dinan, jb4 or nm module, recechip? I was leaning towards the NM, for price and ease of use...
 
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Old May 28, 2019 | 08:29 PM
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In my personal opinion I would go with the NM. It's a little more expensive than the Dinan Sport, but I never heard of the NM causing problems. Can't say the same for the Dinan. I ran the NM for 2 years with the JCW Tune and never had a single complaint with it. I believe there is one for sale in the classified section right now.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...5-shipped.html
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Csasb
Hope, thanks it goes as planed. In good opinion, with the JCW kit, would I go with the Dinan, jb4 or nm module, recechip? I was leaning towards the NM, for price and ease of use...
Here is article testing the NM installed on a jcw tuning kit

http://www.motoringfun.com/2015/11/1...-power-module/
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 06:44 AM
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The current MSRP for the JCW tuning kit is $947. This is a clearance price below dealer cost to sell off any tuning kits left. Once sold out it will no longer be available.
Don't you have to buy the exhaust tips for like another $500?
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 06:57 AM
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Don't you have to buy the exhaust tips for like another $500?

As I recall the JCW tune kit did not come with exhaust tips...they were an additional charge (and they were not cheap). Something like $225 each. The option to order it installed @ the factoiy w/ the chrome tips for $1600 is a gift in comparison to the dealer installed option.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 07:06 AM
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As I recall the JCW tune kit did not come with exhaust tips...they were an additional charge (and they were not cheap). Something like $225 each. The option to order it installed @ the factoiy w/ the chrome tips for $1600 is a gift in comparison to the dealer installed option.
Do you know what the inlet is on the JCW tips? As a cheaper option perhaps you could pick up tips from ECS or some place else.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 07:21 AM
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Do you know what the inlet is on the JCW tips? As a cheaper option perhaps you could pick up tips from ECS or some place else.

Saw these, which are significantly less than dealer pricing:

Genuine Mini parts:

https://new.minimania.com/part/G3NME...n3-F55-F56-F57

https://www.outmotoring.com/exhaust-...-kem-f-cf.html

Borla:

https://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.co...oper?year=2018

I'd call and them and verify fitment to a MCS.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 07:27 AM
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JCW Tuning Kit Chrome Tips $51.17 each with free shipping. Carbon fiber is still $277 each.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/18302355304/
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by USA-RET
tlThe option to order it installed @ the factoiy w/ the chrome tips for $1600 is a gift in comparison to the dealer installed option.
To clarify the JCW tuning kit is not a factory installed part. If ordered with a new vehicle it is installed at the port of entry.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by charrigan
To clarify the JCW tuning kit is not a factory installed part. If ordered with a new vehicle it is installed at the port of entry.
Actually, I asked the the dealer and the MA and was told it's done at the factory (this is the fist year for this option). Was thinking about it and why would Mini manufacture a car w/ an exhaust that has to be removed and replaced somewhere else, when the JCW exhaust could be installed during manufacture and thus saving the stock exhaust for install on the next car in line. Logistically, pulling the new stock exhaust and shipping it back to England dosne't make sense nor does scrapping it at the VPC.

Just repeating what I was told as I know the VPC does stripping and mirror caps....but maybe that's changed also for 2019. If I were managing the operation and since each car is a custom a build, why waste parts and resources duplicating efforts that could be easily schedule and done during the initial car build?

I will inquire again today

Update: confirmed by MA and dealer, factory install
 

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Old May 29, 2019 | 08:18 AM
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Interesting. I also thought it was a waste of money scrapping a very expensive cat and full exhaust.

The JCW pro exhaust is not legal on European roads anymore so I believe only North American cars have this option even available.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 08:35 AM
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It gets installed at port of entry because of restrictions on the valved exhause and because of additional duties on vehicles with carbon fiber parts. by importing them separate and joining them here, it actually costs less cause your only paying the additional duties on the value of the parts and not the whole car. they do the same with the M performance and appearance stuff. they also have the problem of importing a vehicle with the valved exhaust as they didn't do all the emissions, MPG, crash testing etc with that part installed. they would need to redo it to import the vehicle with it installed. to sell the car with it, they just need the part to be legal in the district they sell the car, ex if the car is for cali it needs to be carb approved etc.
the stock exhaust also costs them barely anything in the volume they buy them so having to use up additional space on the factory floor, plus the additional training, and time it takes top put the pro exhaust on is more in the long run then the cost of scrapping a couple exhausts at port. plus thats all built into the price bump for the option so they really don't loose.

we do the same kind of thing with industrial machines at the company I work for.

EDIT: didnt see that you confirmed factory install with your dealer. they are still wrong, it is port installed, confirmed with BMW NA not too long ago.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 09:22 AM
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It gets installed at port of entry because of restrictions on the valved exhause and because of additional duties on vehicles with carbon fiber parts. by importing them separate and joining them here, it actually costs less cause your only paying the additional duties on the value of the parts and not the whole car. they do the same with the M performance and appearance stuff. they also have the problem of importing a vehicle with the valved exhaust as they didn't do all the emissions, MPG, crash testing etc with that part installed. they would need to redo it to import the vehicle with it installed. to sell the car with it, they just need the part to be legal in the district they sell the car, ex if the car is for cali it needs to be carb approved etc.
the stock exhaust also costs them barely anything in the volume they buy them so having to use up additional space on the factory floor, plus the additional training, and time it takes top put the pro exhaust on is more in the long run then the cost of scrapping a couple exhausts at port. plus thats all built into the price bump for the option so they really don't loose.

we do the same kind of thing with industrial machines at the company I work for.

EDIT: didnt see that you confirmed factory install with your dealer. they are still wrong, it is port installed, confirmed with BMW NA not too long ago.

Well, just called both (and posted the update to my post) and got the same answer. So dunno. 2019 was the first time the JCW tune was offered on the configurator. Prior, the Kit was a dealer installed option not a VPC. I noted that the chrome exhaust tips are included in the $1600 charge, the CF are upcharges. Don't know who else to call to get an answer.

Can't speak to BMW, even though I own one (M240i) w/ a valved exhaust which was factory installed as far as I know. I order mine with a Mpower quarter panel decal and that was a port install. CF stuff was dealer install. MA stated that cosmetic stuff are usually VPC installs and QA checks. Mechanical are normally factory.

You could be right...surprised dealer and MA have bad info.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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I talked to them before it was available on the option sheet about how they were going to do it once it was on the build sheet. I could see them maybe adding it at the factory ( with the chrome tips then swapping for CF at port or dealer) if there was enough of a take rate on the option to make it worth certifying the part for being on the vehicle during import process. MA's typically don't have the full picture of when stuff is installed. I was talking with a regional sales manager ( same way I know the GP3 isn't getting numbered stickers and a few other little tidbits about it hehe). my info could very well be out of date though if enough people are checking that box.
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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I am just not sold on tuner boxes. I don’t have the warranty concerns to worry about, so it was an obvious choice for me to get a full ECU remap from Mariokart. But just a couple of weeks ago, I was installing a downpipe for a guy who has had nothing but problems with his Dinan tuner box. Replaced a couple of times, he also was still having cel issues with the unit removed but the harness still connected. It seems like it’s getting worse, not better with Dinan. Lots of unhappy people. This dude was yet another who sent it back for a refund, bought the Remus cut-out exhaust (sounds fantastic!) and a tune from Mario as well. Now he’s making real hp and loving it!
I keep hearing about Dinan having problems lately. The NM Power Module and JB+ both have good track records here. My issues with those types of things is that it doesn’t change AFR’s. These engines run super lean already, and running it even leaner by tricking it to think it’s at a higher altitude will definitely give you more boost, meaning more power, i wasn't personally comfortable with that. I wanted timing, AFR, and everything else adjusted to work together, so I went full ECU tune and couldn’t be happier!
My other problem with the plug in tuner boxes is simply this: almost everyone I know with a tune started out with a tuner box, then wanted even more, and so on from stage 1 to 2 and so on, lol. I figured I’d get ahead of the curve and go straight for stage 3, lol. Honestly I neeeded a new turbo anyway, so I said why not?
 
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Old May 29, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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JCW Tuning Kit Chrome Tips $51.17 each with free shipping. Carbon fiber is still $277 each.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/18302355304/

Yep, the chrome tips dropped in price a little at the beginning of the year.
 
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Old May 30, 2019 | 07:24 AM
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It looks like the exhaust gets rid of the middle resonator but keeps the 2nd cat, is that correct? I'm considering this because I think it keeps me stock class legal (SCCA) and I would like to be able to make the exhaust quieter while in my neighborhood. I also dont want to fork over $1800 for the remus, I was leaning toward the NM before this sale.
 
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Old May 30, 2019 | 07:34 AM
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Yes, it has the second unmonitored cat. No resonator.
 
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