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Old 09-18-2018, 11:41 PM
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Hey guys I'm new to the Mini world. I recently purchased an 08 R55 clubman S for my son and kind of got the Mini bug for myself now. It's a pretty fun car to drive and I find myself looking at R56 and F56 models now. I'm 47 and drive a one ton diesel as my DD and have forgotten how much fun little cars can be. Reminds me of the 90 CRX's of my youth, but nicer. How much better/different are the gen 3 over the gen 2 comparing the same model when it comes to road feel and reliability or less problematic? It goes without saying the gen 3 has more techy upgrades, which are appealing, but not decision making. If I go all in with a newer model I'd go all out with the JCW F56
 
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Hey guys I'm new to the Mini world. I recently purchased an 08 R55 clubman S for my son and kind of got the Mini bug for myself now. It's a pretty fun car to drive and I find myself looking at R56 and F56 models now. I'm 47 and drive a one ton diesel as my DD and have forgotten how much fun little cars can be. Reminds me of the 90 CRX's of my youth, but nicer. How much better/different are the gen 3 over the gen 2 comparing the same model when it comes to road feel and reliability or less problematic? It goes without saying the gen 3 has more techy upgrades, which are appealing, but not decision making. If I go all in with a newer model I'd go all out with the JCW F56
The 2007–2010 "S" models are without any doubt the least reliable years MINI ever produced. I would not recommend them unless the buyer were already mechanically inclined and enjoyed wrenching (and buying parts). The Generation 3 cars are now 5 years old and have a very strong track record. The Gen 2 cars were having problems within 2 years of their release. By comparison, the Gen 3 is a lot more reliable. (Note that the 2011 mode year got a revised engine which resolved many, but not all, of the issues. If you were to buy another Gen 2, I would recommend a 2011 or later.)

When it comes to road feel… Gen 2, hands down. I have owned Generation 1, 2 and 3 MINIs, and each generation gets a bit bigger, a bit more refined, and a bit less visceral. The 2004–2006 R53 still is the standard-setter for road feel.
 
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Thanks, so if you where looking at older models you would rather go for a 11-13 R56 over a 04-06 R53? I’ve been in the mindset if it’s a gen 1 manual is the way to go, and gen 2 auto (I heard early autos have problems, earlier than 08)
im looking at a 06 R53 and a 11R56, both low miles.
 
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For what it's worth, my '05 R53 S with auto trans has been flawless, transmission-wise. Other things, well . . . .
 

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1st Gen guys can't see past the bonnet, Gen 2 and 3 seem otherworldly and of course the Mini crowd looks upon the BMW iteration as alien. That low mileage '06 sounds like a winner. Justa, S, manual or slushbox? S manual being the top of the list.
 
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Old 09-19-2018, 01:38 PM
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It’s a manual. I also ran across a 05 R53 manual, on my way from picking up my daughter after school, with a prefect body, manual with high miles. 150k for 3.5k. I grabbed to number and will txt later. I don’t mind doing engine tranny swaps or any other maintenance if the price is right and never been in accidents. Something tells me since my son has a gen 2 I may pick up a gen 1 to work on and soon looking at a new JCW.
 
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