About to add JCW Tuning Kit... Questions
Within the next couple weeks, I'm going to schedule the JCW Tuning Kit installation. I'm familiar with the improvements it makes over all. Increased HP, Exhaust selector, etc...
Questions: Are there any visible changes that I'll see in the Control Display? Meaning, the lbs torque, and hp displays on the Driving Experience display. Currently HP only displays up to 200. With the JCW Tuning Kit, it's possible to produce more. Any other new display screens for JCW? When I'm in GREEN and MID mode, will there be any changes? Sound, Performance, MPG usage, etc... |
My MPG went up, in MID, with exhaust open, I get about 38 MPG combined, depending. I programmed mine to start in SPORT, exhaust always open. When driving in traffic in town, I am starting to put in MID mode, easier handling, less noise, and I do not "lead the pack" so much when starting from green light, after red. Best MOD I have ever done to the car, IMO. I'll look at the DE display today and report what it says.
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Never go in Green!
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Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie
(Post 4416927)
Never go in Green!
GREEN is very economical and challenging to keep the fish bowl on the roof. Nice for the day to day work drive. Saves gas. Then definitely motoring on the weekends!!! |
I'll check my Carbon later today when I get off of work to see if those screens are different. I went into green once on the highway on a very crappy road to try and get a softer ride but other than that I never go there. I am curious to get this car on a long haul on the highway and see if open exhaust gets me better gas milage.
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Thanks for taking the time to check your "Driving Experience" display screens.
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Dont think my car has ever been in green mode since I got it! The tuning kit is worth it IMO for the exhaust alone. Its the best, most refined sounding exhaust ive heard on any F56. Although I will say, the bluetooth remote is trash and basically useless. The exhaust opens and close by itself like its nobodies business! Ive been on a 2 mile drives where I have to reopen the exhaust like ten times. I ended up going in the trunk and unplugging the exhaust connector from the control box so that fun mode is enabled 24/7 :) Tune was disappointing for me personally, but will suffice for most. Not sure about the displays either I would have to double check on that. Other than there are no other screens or extras that get added. Just exhaust, badge on engine cover, badge on back, and tune.
Best part is now everyone will think you have a JCW but little do they know :wink: |
If you get an aftermarket tune does it stack on top of the JCW tune? In other words, JCW tune puts you at 208 and you add a 30HP tune you now have a 238 tune or does it ignore the JCW tune to just add the 30 to the stock HP?
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Originally Posted by Loccusst
(Post 4417008)
If you get an aftermarket tune does it stack on top of the JCW tune? In other words, JCW tune puts you at 208 and you add a 30HP tune you now have a 238 tune or does it ignore the JCW tune to just add the 30 to the stock HP?
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Went to lunch and checked the screen. 240 HP and 240 torque is what the screen shows with the tune.
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Originally Posted by Loccusst
(Post 4417016)
Went to lunch and checked the screen. 240 HP and 240 torque is what the screen shows with the tune.
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The JCW Pro Tune will work fine with a piggyback module. I ran mine for almost two years with the JCW tune and the NM Power Module. I did however keep the module on the low setting unless I was running octane booster or 100 octane gas. Never a hiccup as long as you know and understand the limitations of the combination. I’m now going into month nine with the BT Tage 1 tune. I have a Milltech DP, Helix I/C, BT spark plugs, and ArmaSpeed CAI, but haven’t felt the need for stage 2...... yet. I also keep a bottle of octane booster in the boot for the occasions that I can’t find top tier 93 octane or better. |
Originally Posted by vetsvette
(Post 4417018)
The JCW Pro Tune will work fine with a piggyback module. I ran mine for almost two years with the JCW tune and the NM Power Module. I did however keep the module on the low setting unless I was running octane booster or 100 octane gas. Never a hiccup as long as you know and understand the limitations of the combination. I’m now going into month nine with the BT Tage 1 tune. I have a Milltech DP, Helix I/C, BT spark plugs, and ArmaSpeed CAI, but haven’t felt the need for stage 2...... yet. I also keep a bottle of octane booster in the boot for the occasions that I can’t find top tier 93 octane or better. |
We've installed a few JCW kits on the F56 cars. But honestly for the money I would recommend going aftermarket as you can get more out of it for less money. And I really feel the Remus Exh beats the heck out of the JCW as it is much lighter, and had 4 modes to it, along with some sexy carbon tips.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/15-f55...mance/exhaust/ Then go with a simple tuning module and gain even more. We have several options. https://www.waymotorworks.com/15-f55...ce/drivetrain/ |
DE reads 240 on HP and torque.
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Originally Posted by SFMCS
(Post 4417385)
DE reads 240 on HP and torque.
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CF tips are ridiculously expensive. |
Originally Posted by vetsvette
(Post 4417395)
CF tips are ridiculously expensive.
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But they look sooooo good......
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Originally Posted by EnjoyRC
(Post 4417390)
Thanx for checking. Making my appointment. Now to decide between Chrome & Carbon Fiber tips.
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What's with all the MINI warnings about running with open exhaust anywhere but the track?
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Originally Posted by EnjoyRC
(Post 4417500)
What's with all the MINI warnings about running with open exhaust anywhere but the track?
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They did that for sound regulation, like off road use only kind of thing. I talked to the product manager whom help design these kits. BTW they did go on sale. The tips did not go on sale, but all three main kits did.
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Got mine on Ebay-the are stainless (polished) and are held on by pointed Allen screws. Sprayed mine with high temp black spray paint as I got tired of cleaning the carbon off of the interiors...you could mask the interiors and spray the outer rings. |
Originally Posted by ECSTuning
(Post 4417504)
BTW they did go on sale. The tips did not go on sale, but all three main kits did.
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Originally Posted by Loccusst
If you get an aftermarket tune does it stack on top of the JCW tune? In other words, JCW tune puts you at 208 and you add a 30HP tune you now have a 238 tune or does it ignore the JCW tune to just add the 30 to the stock HP?
A "tune" usually means changing some of the engine computer's parameters, or instructions. A "piggyback" is some sort of hardware that intercepts sensor data on its way to the engine computer, and changes that data. So, tunes don't stack -- the engine computer only has one set of instructions. (Ignore for now a couple of exception conditions, such as GREEN mode.) if you get a JCW tune installed, then a Bytetronik tune, the BT replaces the JCW. Piggybacks can stack on a tune. People have seen very good results from getting the JCW tune then putting a piggyback (NM, Dinan, etc.) onto the engine. However not all tunes can be safely stacked this way. The JCW tune is relatively mild and conservative, so if you lie to it with a piggyback module, you'll still be well within the engine's safety limits. But get an aggressive tune, and you should not add a piggyback -- once you start feeding false data to a system already pushing the edge of the safe performance envelope, things get real sketchy real fast. Hope this helps! |
As an S model, you already have the "first" tune, Sport Mode. I had a NM on my S and decided to go with the JCW tune solo (NM for sale BTW). For me, it seems much better than the NM. The torque range feels wider and more controlled than just front wheel spin with the NM. The tune presses me into the sport seats 2-5 gears. Speed isn't everything. It is just one of many components.
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Originally Posted by Loccusst
(Post 4416955)
I'll check my Carbon later today when I get off of work to see if those screens are different. I went into green once on the highway on a very crappy road to try and get a softer ride but other than that I never go there. I am curious to get this car on a long haul on the highway and see if open exhaust gets me better gas milage.
Go green, w/pipes open on trips or puttering around. In green things like AC are cycled differently, plus chip settings for mpg. Even at 75-80mph. Going to Mini On The Mack last year, my wife and I (plus gear) avg 39mpg. Spurts over 40mpg. I also agree with others, in mid mode, with pipe open, better performance and mpg. |
Originally Posted by EnjoyRC
(Post 4416918)
Within the next couple weeks, I'm going to schedule the JCW Tuning Kit installation. I'm familiar with the improvements it makes over all. Increased HP, Exhaust selector, etc...
Questions: Are there any visible changes that I'll see in the Control Display? Meaning, the lbs torque, and hp displays on the Driving Experience display. Currently HP only displays up to 200. With the JCW Tuning Kit, it's possible to produce more. Any other new display screens for JCW? When I'm in GREEN and MID mode, will there be any changes? Sound, Performance, MPG usage, etc... |
Today is the day I'm dropping my MINI off at the MINI for the JCW Tuning Kit installation.
Quick question: Where to have MINI apply the JCW emblem on the tailgate during my JCW Tuning Kit upgrade? The instructions indicate a much higher location than my CooperS logo on the right side. My first reaction is the vertical measurement should be equal to the measurement to the bottom of the CooperS emblem. Or do I leave it in the default location indicated in the instructions? What do you think? |
Tell them what you want and they should do it, I like the old school match to match horizontal for the JCW Tuning kits on the R53 and R56 platform.
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
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Tell them what you want and they should do it, I like the old school match to match horizontal for the JCW Tuning kits on the R53 and R56 platform.
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I have seen them do special things for owners time to time. On that its a simple change.
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My Carbon came with it on the Left side o the hatch, across from the S. It looks good that way in my opinion. You should also end up with a decal under the hood with the tune info on it (date and such) and a small decal on the engine cover.
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How much was the labor for the install?
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