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Which is more effective: strut tower brace or Craven’s “Big Pair”?

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Which is more effective: strut tower brace or Craven’s “Big Pair”?

I drive the four door hardtop. I already have a 22mm NM rear sway bar and JCW Pro Coilovers. Thinking that either a front strut tower bar or the CravenSpeed Big Pair (Big Trio for F55) are next. Anyone have experience with them both? Which is likely to make the most noticeable difference in handling?

I am leaning to the under chassis bracing since the 4-door is longer and probably is subject to more twisting. And the strut towers aren’t very far forward of the body framework; I can’t imagine they flex much.

Thoughts? What has been your experience with either or both of these?

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Big Pair will definitely make a difference. Strut tower brace on an F-55/56 is more cosmetic than functional.
 
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IMO anything you can do to tie one side to the other is good. There is just varying degrees of good. I have both with the addition of a four point roll bar. Don’t think I can do anything to make it better.
 
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Originally Posted by rtowell View Post
Big Pair will definitely make a difference. Strut tower brace on an F-55/56 is more cosmetic than functional.

This (but I have both too)
 
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Big Pair will definitely make a difference. Strut tower brace on an F-55/56 is more cosmetic than functional.
i haven't actually seen anyone say "wow i feel a difference" with the big pair. if you are that person, speak up.
 
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i haven't actually seen anyone say "wow i feel a difference" with the big pair. if you are that person, speak up.
I’m that person. Wow, I feel a difference every day.
actually surprised at the difference. Check the reviews on Cravens page. There’s a long form of my impression there.
 
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It totally does firm up the chassis. It eliminated the squishy feeling
 
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I definitely felt a difference immediately with the Big Pair. One of the best bangs for the buck out there.
 
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Thank you ALL! This is super helpful and I'll be starting out with the Big Trio for my F55.

I'll also update this thread with my post-install impressions (although that may be a bit).
 
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Here's my writeup from a while ago - https://myredmini.com/the-big-pair/

I had older instructions and it said a T40 bit was needed but it was really a T45. I let CravenSpeed know so it might be updated.
 

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I honestly didn't feel a big difference with the big pair, but then again I don't drive it much. The Powerflex race bushing I felt! I will probably add a strut bar and some KW v2's in the future.
 
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There's also the Ultra Racing braces... a little further down my list, but I'd probably do the lower 4-point one before a strut tower brace. Vinnie has this- anything else you can say about it?

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...is-braces.html

https://ultraracing-usa.com/product/...f56-2014-2018/
 
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There's also the Ultra Racing braces... a little further down my list, but I'd probably do the lower 4-point one before a strut tower brace. Vinnie has this- anything else you can say about it?

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...is-braces.html

https://ultraracing-usa.com/product/...f56-2014-2018/
Thanks @J_L

I do and I love them! I didnt appreciate how much they stiffened up my car until I got my winter tires off for one and got rid of my stock run flats.

The combination of them and the Big Pair really gave me the ride and handling I was looking for.

They are inexpensive compared to the name brands that are out there and work just as well.

I have the strut tower, and front and mid braces with the Big Pair in the rear

https://myredmini.com/ultra-racing/
https://myredmini.com/front-member-brace-install/
 
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IDK but a big pair really stiffens things up!!
 
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I would have gone Big Pair (Trio) as well. I don’t have either strut or underside brace. Just the overall length, the big pair (trio) seems to be the next step.
 
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I don't notice any difference with the front strut bar.

But the body braces underneath we do see improvement. I've been using the Chassis Bones version as they fit perfect and are cost effective
https://www.waymotorworks.com/chassi...5-f56-f57.html
 
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks
I don't notice any difference with the front strut bar.

But the body braces underneath we do see improvement. I've been using the Chassis Bones version as they fit perfect and are cost effective
https://www.waymotorworks.com/chassi...5-f56-f57.html
Hey, nice! Got a variant for F55 with an extra of the smaller braces? (Big Trio?)
 
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Hey, nice! Got a variant for F55 with an extra of the smaller braces? (Big Trio?)
Yes we have a 3pc set, only 2 pictured right now but you do get all 3.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/chassi...55-4-door.html
 
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks View Post
Yes we have a 3pc set, only 2 pictured right now but you do get all 3.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/chassi...55-4-door.html
I apparently ordered the 2-piece set for my F55 by mistake.

Any chance you would sell me the 3rd brace a la carte?
 
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Originally Posted by WayMotorWorks View Post
Yes we have a 3pc set, only 2 pictured right now but you do get all 3.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/chassi...55-4-door.html
Awesome!

Now I’ll just wait for the site to come out of maintenance mode or whatever...


 
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I apparently ordered the 2-piece set for my F55 by mistake.

Any chance you would sell me the 3rd brace a la carte?
Yeah just email and we'll set it up.

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Awesome!

Now I’ll just wait for the site to come out of maintenance mode or whatever...
Working find now maint done.
 
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Working find now maint done.
I went back an hour later and it was fine. According to UPS they’ll land in my greedy little hands on Friday.
 
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I went back an hour later and it was fine. According to UPS they’ll land in my greedy little hands on Friday.
Impressions ? Did you install these?
 
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i haven't actually seen anyone say "wow i feel a difference" with the big pair. if you are that person, speak up.
Wow, I feel a difference! more below.

Originally Posted by Minnie.the.Moocher View Post
Impressions ? Did you install these?
i can’t believe I forgot to follow up here. Yes, they make a difference. It’s very subtle (read: not a huge difference) but very real. Throwing the car into corners, it is more stable and tracks more evenly. It just feels more precise. It could be placebo but I swear I can tell the difference.

That said, it’s not a night-and-day difference like a rear seat bar is and I will still recommend the RSB as a good first choice for improving handling. I consider the Big Trio – or In my case the WMW Chassis Bones – to be a very worthwhile addition. And they are cheap and very easy to install.

(For reference, I first did the RSB, then the JCW coilovers and struts and lowering springs kit, then the Chassis Bones. The three work very very well together. I’m happy as a clam.)

(Why are clams so happy, anyway? &#129300
 
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