F55/F56 MINI has downshift rev match manual transmission!!
#51
There will not be a rev match on an up shift since the rpms will naturally drop between gears and there is no reason for the ecu to apply rpms. On the downshift, depending on the speed and gear that you downshift too, the ecu will apply rpm (rev match) to match the rpm for that gear and speed for a smooth shift.
If you move from 3rd gear to 4th gear, and leave the clutch pushed in, as the revs naturally fall the car will keep the revs matched to 4th gear for a few seconds, keep it pushed down any longer and it will drop down to idle speed.
Its more smooth the smaller the RPM drop, so its easier to try in the higher up gears.
#52
Sorry for the necro bump, but this feature sort of irritates me. I've always been accustomed to rev matching downshifts myself, and can definitely drive this car more smoothly (and more my speed) with DSC off where that feature isn't on. I could live with just doing that all the time if cruise control worked, but that's not the case. Is it possible to code the feature out or make it possible to use cruise with DSC (or at least traction control) off? I have a pretty good diff, so the traction control feature isn't super helpful anyways.
--Matt
--Matt
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MINI_42 (07-31-2017)
#53
Sorry for the necro bump, but this feature sort of irritates me. I've always been accustomed to rev matching downshifts myself, and can definitely drive this car more smoothly (and more my speed) with DSC off where that feature isn't on. I could live with just doing that all the time if cruise control worked, but that's not the case. Is it possible to code the feature out or make it possible to use cruise with DSC (or at least traction control) off? I have a pretty good diff, so the traction control feature isn't super helpful anyways.
--Matt
--Matt
#55
Try the CravenSpeed adjustable short shifter and Pro Shifter retaining clip. That tightens up the pattern considerably and removes the slop. I also have the S4S Billy Club shift **** on mine. Perfect combination IMO.
https://www.cravenspeed.com/adjustab...fter-for-mini/
https://www.cravenspeed.com/mini-shi...ning-clip-pro/
http://www.sneed4speed.com/mini-cooper-shift-****/
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https://www.cravenspeed.com/mini-shi...ning-clip-pro/
http://www.sneed4speed.com/mini-cooper-shift-****/
#56
Sorry to regurgitate this thread...I'm a little confused, can someone clarify a thing or two please?
1. It is possible to disable the rev matching? If so, awesome that's what I want.
2. However if you do disable it, is it disabled until you the driver re-enable it?
3. If/when you do disable it, do you also disable DSC and cruise control?
I hate the automatic rev matching. I took a 2017 MCS for a test drive and felt like a ponce. May as well get a self driving Tesla if I wanted all automation garbage to take the fun out of driving.
I asked the MA about whether it was something you could disable, poor dear had no clue. I was told she was the expert on new Minis. They must've been pulling my leg. She was hot though.
TIA
1. It is possible to disable the rev matching? If so, awesome that's what I want.
2. However if you do disable it, is it disabled until you the driver re-enable it?
3. If/when you do disable it, do you also disable DSC and cruise control?
I hate the automatic rev matching. I took a 2017 MCS for a test drive and felt like a ponce. May as well get a self driving Tesla if I wanted all automation garbage to take the fun out of driving.
I asked the MA about whether it was something you could disable, poor dear had no clue. I was told she was the expert on new Minis. They must've been pulling my leg. She was hot though.
TIA
#57
Sorry to regurgitate this thread...I'm a little confused, can someone clarify a thing or two please?
1. It is possible to disable the rev matching? If so, awesome that's what I want.
2. However if you do disable it, is it disabled until you the driver re-enable it?
3. If/when you do disable it, do you also disable DSC and cruise control?
I hate the automatic rev matching. I took a 2017 MCS for a test drive and felt like a ponce. May as well get a self driving Tesla if I wanted all automation garbage to take the fun out of driving.
I asked the MA about whether it was something you could disable, poor dear had no clue. I was told she was the expert on new Minis. They must've been pulling my leg. She was hot though.
TIA
1. It is possible to disable the rev matching? If so, awesome that's what I want.
2. However if you do disable it, is it disabled until you the driver re-enable it?
3. If/when you do disable it, do you also disable DSC and cruise control?
I hate the automatic rev matching. I took a 2017 MCS for a test drive and felt like a ponce. May as well get a self driving Tesla if I wanted all automation garbage to take the fun out of driving.
I asked the MA about whether it was something you could disable, poor dear had no clue. I was told she was the expert on new Minis. They must've been pulling my leg. She was hot though.
TIA
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MINI_42 (08-03-2017)
#60
I have a 2017 JCW Manual and there is no way to disable the automatic rev matching. You only notice it if you jump down a couple of gears as it isn't really noticeable if you are going down a single gear in normal driving. However, if you are doing a rapid deceleration to round a corner, etc., you'll experience it every time. It may be a matter of personal preference, and perhaps somebody else can chime in if this can be coded out, but there is not a setting to turn it off. I quite enjoy it - it's rather intelligent. Likewise for the momentary brake hold when lifting your foot off the brakes on an incline.
#62
I go from six to three sometimes through town with no issue. Usually in sport mode and notice that from six to two from 45, she really doesn't slow down much. If I'm in green mode, however, it's like an eighteen wheeler. I also notice that sometimes shifting up when really on the floor, she slides right into gear. Rarely do I think I did anything right. Always feels great!
#63
Sorry for the necro bump, but this feature sort of irritates me. I've always been accustomed to rev matching downshifts myself, and can definitely drive this car more smoothly (and more my speed) with DSC off where that feature isn't on. I could live with just doing that all the time if cruise control worked, but that's not the case. Is it possible to code the feature out or make it possible to use cruise with DSC (or at least traction control) off? I have a pretty good diff, so the traction control feature isn't super helpful anyways.
--Matt
--Matt
#64
I've driven a manual transmission for 20 years. I have never. ever. had to replace a transmission or damaged an engine. I do not need a dumbed down shifting system that interferes with the way I drive. I'm amazed a motor head forum isn't filled with real hatred for this feature! (But I'm old fashioned, I see no point to hill assist either. If you want an automatic buy one. Leave the manual transmissions to the folks who LIKE to drive.)
#65
Good news all. The dealer CAN disable the rev matching. I don't know if there is a way for the user to do it. But my 2015 got an update pushed that enabled this "feature." 7am the next morning I was back at the dealer and they investigated and got it turned off permanently. So it can be done, if you don't want it, call your dealer.
#67
It is actually rev matching to your SPEED in a lower gear. Personally I love it. It has saved my engine and tranny a few times. My wife's 2013 does not have it (along with gear number on status screen) and when driving hers, I have missed a few times. Could be age, but I have been driving manuals for over 50 years and have a few trophies in autocross. With the new autos (with paddle shift) it appears that the manual will be obsolete in a few years and I am OK with that.....kind of like land line telephones.
#69
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#71
Well, I've had my car for over a year and this is still one of my least favorite features. It cheapens the manual experience for me. I don't want or need to have the car rev match. I'm happy to do that myself. I really really don't like its little fits when taking off from a stop where it matches the 1-2mph roll, and harshens the takeoff. I don't like having to drive around without stability control or cruise control to get rid of it.
If someone knows how to code it out with ESys, I'd love to see how.
--Matt
If someone knows how to code it out with ESys, I'd love to see how.
--Matt
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