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F54 P0446 Engine light.

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I have a 2017 F55S with the B46 engine. I have 20k miles. At what mileage should I plan for this valve to fail? I'm way out of warranty due to time.
 
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Does this vent valve cause rough idle when starting cold? Our 2017 Clubman S All4 will do this sometimes, but not consistently. Yesterday when my wife started the car ( in the garage ), it idled roughly and as she backed out of the garage it actually stalled. Started right back up. It sounded louder than normal too.

Many times it starts fine when cold (don’t mean like it’s low air temperatures). Does the code show up in the radio? Or do I need a code reader for this? I did go through the radio to check the available status of the various car systems, but everything had a green check mark.
It’s a wait and see condition as of now, because it would probably be fine if I took it to the dealer to diagnose it.
 
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The main issue is hard start after fill up.

Ordered one for myself. $36.00 for a Bosch, cause theBMW and MINI OEMS say Bosch!!
I dont have the code, but hard start after fill.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/min...ch-13907621174
 

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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
The main issue is hard start after fill up.

Ordered one for myself. $36.00 for a Bosch, cause theBMW and MINI OEMS say Bosch!!
I dont have the code, but hard start after fill.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/min...ch-13907621174
2017 Mini Cooper S Clubman All4 currently at 38,992 miles. Has the check engine light on. Sometimes has a weird idle speed when first started, so today I had a code reader hooked up.
Codes: 118401 Mixture too lean
151001 Ignition timing adjustment in idle, too early after cold start
190F08 Fuel tank ventilation system-Malfunction
191C02 Fuel tank ventilation system 2nd inlet point malfunction
195014 Pressure sensor Venturi nozzle in the tank vent line, signal fixed
1E0001 Idle speed control, engine speed too high
Seems to me I have a malfunctioning vent valve. What do you guys think? Does the check engine light go away if the valve is replaced by itself? Or would I need to manually turn it off?
Just had my dog in the emergency room and now have a big bill, so if I can fix this on my own, it would be great.
 
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Old 01-19-2023, 06:02 PM
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Want to add this. I pulled my valve off and really can’t see in it good enough to see the reed valves. You have to look down a tube, so it makes it almost impossible. It is the Bosch, dual port design part # 0 280 142 527
It seems going on the links listed above, it comes up with part # 0 280 142 524, which looking at the pictures on those sites, is only a single port.



 
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Thats the newer one: shared with MINI and BMW

0280142527 looks like it goes to 13907614013

This is what 0280142526 looks like:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/13907614013/

or bosch https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bosch-pa...907614013~bos/


If i dig and find anymore info i will post up.
 
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Im not sure the dual port ones have issues as the others.
You have way too many codes to just be the valve.
 
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
Im not sure the dual port ones have issues as the others.
You have way too many codes to just be the valve.
On the TSB, it shows the same codes I have except for a couple. Which I was thinking would cause the weird idling sometimes due to the valve malfunction.
 
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Put the new purge valve in the clubby today. Now I need to find someone to delete the codes to see if they come back. Thanks to ECSTuning for delivering the Bosch part quickly.
 
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FYI, after receiving my Bosch purge valve from ECSTuning, I installed it. Upon the 1st start up, the engine light still showed up. It was then driven about 20 miles and shut off.
When it was started the 3rd time, No More Engine Light.
Apparently the computer recognizes some codes no longer active and shuts off the light. I thought I would have to get the codes deleted but in this case it corrected itself. Yay!!
Also, the new purge valve is 1 number different from the original. New one ends with ….526, original….527. Dual port valve.
 
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Thats great!

Yea, you might need to clear the code with a scan tool dependent on the part. Seems like the F56+ is a learning ECU for emissions. So it was not a permanent fault. My old R52 and R58 you have to clear them.
 
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Thats the newer one: shared with MINI and BMW

0280142527 looks like it goes to 13907614013

This is what 0280142526 looks like:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...e/13907614013/

or bosch https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bosch-pa...907614013~bos/


If i dig and find anymore info i will post up.
Hey there!

Was hoping you guys and/or @TVPostSound could shed a bit more light on this.

I took my breather valve out from my 2014 Cooper S and it reads 0280142525.
The local shop tried to sell me 0280142524, telling me its the same part.
You guys, however, posted Bosch part# 0280142526.
Are they all the same as I want to be sure to order the right part?

Many thanks!!
 
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Old 08-16-2023, 06:51 AM
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0280142526 is the one to use for this thread. https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/0280142526/



Looks at the design to match yours.

Think
0280142524 is the another part number. Its this design.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-bosch-pa...907621174~bos/






Please match to your original one, look at the pictures.
 
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