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JohnnyQuest 12-21-2016 08:26 AM

F54 Oil Change
 
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I have 9,000 miles on my 17 All4S and needed an oil change. Since the dealer is far away and I have a lift, I did it myself. There are two access flaps in the underside cover: one for the oil drain and one for the filter. BMW unofficially carries the parts. The current X1 has the same part number for the "oil change kit." The kit includes the filter, a new canister drain plug, the canister O-ring, and a new brass washer for the sump drain plug. The canister drain plug is an absolutely brilliant idea! My Porsche has a very similar system; however, they don't include a drain plug for the canister housing. Therefore, I have to very carefully try to remove the canister when it is full of hot oil. It's nearly impossible on the Porsche to do that without spilling some. However, with the Mini, it's nearly foolproof. What a fantastic idea. The only thing that I didn't like, was that the access flaps are not removable as they are with my current and prior BMWs. Instead, they just bend down. They tend to creep back into the path of the draining oil so you need to zip tie them out of the way to keep them clean.

Now if I could just figure out how to reset the service reminder I'd be all set...

Followup:
Holy moly! This (below link) reset technique actually worked (all from the odo reset button - the computer/stalk button isn't necessary)! I never thought this would work on a 2017 vehicle. After owning BMWs since 2003 and them not even listing the oil viscosity in the owner's manual (seriously - the manuals say to go to the dealer if you are low on oil), I figured Mini would follow suit and do everything possible to try to prevent owners from working on their own cars. For both the Porsche and BMW I had to buy aftermarket reset tools. I just can't believe that Mini would let owners do it themselves. What a happy surprise!

http://www.minif56.com/forum/754-how...intervals.html

Tio Barry 12-22-2016 07:44 AM

Hmmm. Doesn't look floor jack friendly.

Quentin 12-25-2016 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by JohnnyQuest (Post 4267043)
I have 9,000 miles on my 17 All4S and needed an oil change. Since the dealer is far away and I have a lift, I did it myself. There are two access flaps in the underside cover: one for the oil drain and one for the filter. BMW unofficially carries the parts. The current X1 has the same part number for the "oil change kit." The kit includes the filter, a new canister drain plug, the canister O-ring, and a new brass washer for the sump drain plug. The canister drain plug is an absolutely brilliant idea! My Porsche has a very similar system; however, they don't include a drain plug for the canister housing. Therefore, I have to very carefully try to remove the canister when it is full of hot oil. It's nearly impossible on the Porsche to do that without spilling some. However, with the Mini, it's nearly foolproof. What a fantastic idea. The only thing that I didn't like, was that the access flaps are not removable as they are with my current and prior BMWs. Instead, they just bend down. They tend to creep back into the path of the draining oil so you need to zip tie them out of the way to keep them clean.

Now if I could just figure out how to reset the service reminder I'd be all set...

Followup:
Holy moly! This (below link) reset technique actually worked (all from the odo reset button - the computer/stalk button isn't necessary)! I never thought this would work on a 2017 vehicle. After owning BMWs since 2003 and them not even listing the oil viscosity in the owner's manual (seriously - the manuals say to go to the dealer if you are low on oil), I figured Mini would follow suit and do everything possible to try to prevent owners from working on their own cars. For both the Porsche and BMW I had to buy aftermarket reset tools. I just can't believe that Mini would let owners do it themselves. What a happy surprise!

http://www.minif56.com/forum/754-how...intervals.html

Did your car tell you that you needed an oil change or did you decide you needed an oil change. My wife's Clubman says that we are something like 9000 miles out from the next required service (which would be approximately 16000 miles on the odo). That seems entirely too long, IMO.

JohnnyQuest 12-27-2016 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 4267803)
Did your car tell you that you needed an oil change or did you decide you needed an oil change. My wife's Clubman says that we are something like 9000 miles out from the next required service (which would be approximately 16000 miles on the odo). That seems entirely too long, IMO.

My car told me I needed to change the oil. I believe that the change interval is determined by how the car is driven, but reverts to 9,000 miles or 1 year as a maximum. I don't think I ever read about the 9,000 miles or the 1 year as being a trigger. But I bought the car in May of 2016 and the service indicator told me I needed an oil change in May of 2017 or at 9,000 miles from new. The 9,000 counted down. I change it last week and then reset the indicator per above. Now it tells me that I need to change it again in 9,000 miles or in December of 2017. Therefore, mine is evidently on a 9,000 mile or 12 month trigger.

If yours has the same miles as mine and yours is still indicating an oil change is still far off, then you wife must be driving that thing like a girl! :lol:

Minnie.the.Moocher 12-27-2016 11:32 AM

The oil change interval is usually on the build sheet if you look at bimmer.work .

My F56 is 15000km.

ECSTuning 12-29-2016 11:37 AM

Nice write up , there is already an oil change DIY here for the F56+. MINI now has those fabric type belly pans with entry doors on them. Which is new for Gen 3 MINI.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...rocedures.html

Did your MINI call for the new 0w-20 or 0w-30 in the owner manual? Some 2016+ models list it.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...2937c158cd.jpg

JohnnyQuest 12-29-2016 12:35 PM

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Thanks! 0W-20. This is from the owner's manual:

ECSTuning 12-29-2016 12:44 PM

Yep, you found it. We just got some of the 0w-20 in 83212365955

gearhead60 12-30-2016 05:25 AM

Under the hood of my 2017 ALL4 Clubman S is a sticker that says use 0W-20....
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...647cf6615c.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...c6293fc19a.jpg

RhoniT 01-17-2017 06:10 AM

JohnnyQuest; where did you buy your filter from? I have a 16-Clubman and it reads out that my oil changes are 10,000 miles. I had it changed in early December when I'd actually gone over 10,000. The service guy told me I could have went another 500 miles. OKay!! I have a hard time even going over that 5,000 mark and not being able to check the oil and see it, drives me nuts. Anyone change theirs more often?

JohnnyQuest 01-17-2017 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by RhoniT (Post 4273348)
JohnnyQuest; where did you buy your filter from? I have a 16-Clubman and it reads out that my oil changes are 10,000 miles. I had it changed in early December when I'd actually gone over 10,000. The service guy told me I could have went another 500 miles. OKay!! I have a hard time even going over that 5,000 mark and not being able to check the oil and see it, drives me nuts. Anyone change theirs more often?


If you look here (link below) you'll see the part number for the filter: 11428570590 Since my Mini dealer is far away, but I have a local BMW dealer, I just gave the BMW dealer the part number. Technically, BMW dealers don't sell Mini parts, but the part number is the same for the X1. You can look that up on the same site.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_6461

Here's the link for the X1:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=11_5898

Part number for the filter is the same.

RhoniT 01-17-2017 06:53 AM

ECSTUNING, do you have the oil filter kit w/o-ring available for the 2016 Clubman?

ECSTuning 01-17-2017 06:59 AM

Yes,

https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Sit...67__ES2972533/

Or select your MINI from our drop down and select maintenance for the oil change kits.
11428570590


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...1699b3db19.jpg

RhoniT 01-17-2017 07:08 AM

Thanks, JohnnyQuest
Our closest dealerships of both BMW and MINI are on adjoining lots, not much help there.

In response to why a lot of people want to do their own maintenance: My younger cousin bought a MINI hardtop late last summer, it was a lot loaner. He had it a month and had to take it back to the dealer for an oil change, 2 hour drive - one way. About a week after the oil change, remember 2 hour drive home, at least 7 trips to work 45 mins round trip and many more miles just running around. A friend ask to look in the engine compartment. So he opens the hood, there laid his oil cap on the top of the engine. Oil changing tech failed to put it back on. EPIC fail!! Lesson I learned from this, drive off the lot to the first exit, stop and check car for leaks and that the oil cap is on and tight. Just sayin' ...

RhoniT 01-17-2017 07:09 AM

ECSTUNING tried the select your model, what is B36A15A?

ECSTuning 01-17-2017 07:38 AM

Thats the engine. Do you have the Clubman or Clubman S?

2016 Clubman 1.5L B36 (3 cylinder engine)

https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2016-Cooper-F54-Clubman-Coupe-B36A15A/


Or

2016 Clubman S 2.0L B46 (4 cylinder engine)


https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2016-Cooper-F54-Clubman_S-Coupe-B46A20A/

gearhead60 01-18-2017 05:10 AM

I ordered my filter from http://www.ebay.com/itm/131883737847?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

ECSTuning 01-18-2017 05:14 AM

We do have the Mahle one linked above which is the OEM for MINI. Lower cost option.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...d4ea222365.jpg

Flyinace2000 09-28-2017 10:01 AM

If anyone is concern about oil life, you can spend about $40 with blackstone labs. they will do an analysis and give you details. I sent them an oil analysis from my 535 at 10k miles and they said I could go to 12k miles without issues.

aussiedogphotog 05-14-2019 08:27 AM

Hi,

I just purchased a 2016 Clubman 1.5l. This is the first car I owned that requires synthetic oil so I'm a bit confused on oil recommendations.

On the engine it recommends 0W-20. I know I can buy the 0W-20 Mini oil but I would like to run Ligui Moly. On the ECS Website I see 5W-40 and 5W-30. Won't that higher viscosity be too much, (effect gas mileage). I'm in the middle upper part of TN with LOTS of hills.

Is anybody else running Ligui Moly in their engines? What weight?

ECSTuning 05-14-2019 08:36 AM

We have many people going over to liquid moly as I run them (5w-40) in both my MINIs that stock is 5w-30, gas mileage will not change much if any, its the improved formula in Molygen LM over stock oil. Its the added friction-reducing additive and for that oil the green die that helps expose oil leaks. But since you are new the oil leak should not be an issue. 280,000+ miles on my R52 and almost 100K on my R58 and going strong.

Other people can post up what they experienced.

gearhead60 05-14-2019 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by aussiedogphotog (Post 4469574)
Hi,

I just purchased a 2016 Clubman 1.5l. This is the first car I owned that requires synthetic oil so I'm a bit confused on oil recommendations.

On the engine it recommends 0W-20. I know I can buy the 0W-20 Mini oil but I would like to run Ligui Moly. On the ECS Website I see 5W-40 and 5W-30. Won't that higher viscosity be too much, (effect gas mileage). I'm in the middle upper part of TN with LOTS of hills.

Is anybody else running Ligui Moly in their engines? What weight?

I use the that I find on Amazon. Meets the OE specs for the 2017 Clubman S...

NBCGLX 06-16-2019 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by gearhead60 (Post 4469639)
I use the LiquiMoly 0W20 that I find on Amazon. Meets the OE specs for the 2017 Clubman S...

I just checked the Liqui Moly site and it doesn’t list the LL-01 FE or LL-14 FE+ approvals for this oil. Maybe I’m missing something?

jma 06-16-2019 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by aussiedogphotog (Post 4469574)
Hi,

I just purchased a 2016 Clubman 1.5l. This is the first car I owned that requires synthetic oil so I'm a bit confused on oil recommendations.

On the engine it recommends 0W-20. I know I can buy the 0W-20 Mini oil but I would like to run Ligui Moly. On the ECS Website I see 5W-40 and 5W-30. Won't that higher viscosity be too much, (effect gas mileage). I'm in the middle upper part of TN with LOTS of hills.

Is anybody else running Ligui Moly in their engines? What weight?

My car is the same as yours, I changed the oil and used Liqui Moly 5W-30, got it from ECS. No issues as far as I can tell and no change is gas mileage.

gearhead60 06-17-2019 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by NBCGLX (Post 4476417)
I just checked the Liqui Moly site and it doesn’t list the LL-01 FE or LL-14 FE+ approvals for this oil. Maybe I’m missing something?

The oil on the Amazon site has an API rating of SN. In the Mini Owners Manual, it specifys API SL or superior. By API's rating system, the SN rating is a superior rating. By my way of thinking, if Mini/BMW says a SL or superior oil is acceptable, then SN should meet that requirement. Here's a link to the Petroluem Institute website that explains the API system.


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