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mistro Nov 30, 2006 01:18 PM

What's my new Boost Gauge telling me?
 
Just finished installting my Stewart Warner Boost Gauge (lights not spliced in yet but gauge is working) and I am wondering what are normal readings for a Boost gauge?

At idle I'm showing 20/21 Hg Vacuum and at Boost say 5000/6000 RPM's I'm showing 16/17 psi.

Currently the mods I have installed for performance are an Alta IC Diverter, Engine Damper, Helix 17% pulley and a Webb/Helix clone CAI. Just want to know what normal is... TIA Michael

Greatbear Nov 30, 2006 01:20 PM

Sounds perfectly normal to me. :thumbsup:

herbie hind Nov 30, 2006 02:53 PM

yep from all i've read here ;that's correct!!

DrPhilGandini Nov 30, 2006 02:56 PM

Where are you measuring the boost?
cheers,

mistro Nov 30, 2006 04:19 PM

Not sure what you mean when you say, "Where are you measuring the boost?"

Scavenger Nov 30, 2006 04:30 PM

I didn't see many pictures on their site, can you post some of your new installation?

MarioKart Nov 30, 2006 04:40 PM

Sounds perfect, the same as me. If you get a new Detroit ByPassValve you will get more boost and quicker, but best of all the car takes off smooth. It was a great mod and for $125 is was cheap.

DrPhilGandini Nov 30, 2006 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by mistro (Post 1249176)
Not sure what you mean when you say, "Where are you measuring the boost?"

I'm not measuring boost myself, but I can put a probe in before the IC, after the IC or from any of the vacuum tubes (like the one coming off the intake manifold near cylinder 4 (the one at the left). Hence my question: where in the intake path are you measuring boost? My experience measuring temperatures suggests that temperature varies considerably along the intake path and requires at least 4 probes to understand what is happening (I currently only have 3...damnit).

cheers

JBravoMC Dec 1, 2006 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini (Post 1249479)
I'm not measuring boost myself, but I can put a probe in before the IC, after the IC or from any of the vacuum tubes (like the one coming off the intake manifold near cylinder 4 (the one at the left). Hence my question: where in the intake path are you measuring boost? My experience measuring temperatures suggests that temperature varies considerably along the intake path and requires at least 4 probes to understand what is happening (I currently only have 3...damnit).

cheers

Sorry to highjack the thread, but where should one measure boost from? Say, if someone recently installed a DFIC?

Thank you,
JBravoMC

DrPhilGandini Dec 1, 2006 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by JBravoMC (Post 1250266)
Sorry to highjack the thread, but where should one measure boost from? Say, if someone recently installed a DFIC?
Thank you,
JBravoMC

I think most with the DFIC are measuring boost at the bungs on the in- and out- cavities of the IC. They are standard 1/8" NPT females.

cheers,

JBravoMC Dec 1, 2006 12:00 PM

So, assuming I have one boost gauge needle, do I tap into the IN, OUT or both bungs to get the boost reading? With both bungs possibly giving me the average? Is that even wise to do?

TIA,
JBravoMC

Dr Obnxs Dec 1, 2006 12:08 PM

For a boost gauge...
 
the best place to tap is the existing tap used for the VGS mod, down by belt end of the engine on the intake manifold. This is the vacuum line that controls the fuel regulator, and while not exactly where the T-MAP sensor is, is representative of what the ECU sees to run the motor. Really, a boost gauge is there not to diagnose the pressure losses in the intake path (a good thing to do) but to measure the pressure that's forcing the charge into the cylinders. And the intake manifold is the best place to do that.

But Phil, you're quickly comming to understand what's true on diagnostics. You can't have too many data channels, but you sure can have too few! For a good Intake characterization, you either have to move one or two probes around in a repeatable environment (read good dyno room) or you have to have enough channels to get everything you want at once, to get good snapshots of the action in real world conditions..... Wouldn't it be sweet to have a min of 4 each temp and pressure? more would be even better.

Costs less than an M62 kit, but I think I'd rather have the blower!:lol:

Matt

GrFa Dec 21, 2006 06:27 PM

I also have the Stewart Warner gauge, which was installed by the dealership. With a 15% and intake I get 15psi at redline in 4th gear. So yours seems just about right with the larger pulley.


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