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Mastersonics Aug 12, 2006 09:21 PM

Should I go JCW or Helix/Madness/Alta (Turbo's)
 
Ok everyone
Here's the thing.

I have bought pretty much everything I need for my Cooper S Cabrio
(rear sway, M7 USS etc...) except engine parts.

My dilema is to decide between 2 scenarios:

1. Go JCW all the way (brakes, engine etc...) and don't look back.

-OR-

2. Go with a Turbo Kit (Helix, Madness or Alta) and go nutz.
(Wilwoods, Tein's etc....)


I love to have a much as power as possible (like most of us)
but there's a voice telling me that I should stick with JCW
since they closed shop and the value of a JCW MINI might go up.



Can anyone shed some light to this.


I have the $$$ to get either system right know.
just wanted to see what you guys/gals think,
If you were in this situation and "WHY"

my only concern about going Turbo is Reliability etc...


Thanks in advance for your help and thoughts


regards,
Charles

Yucca Patrol Aug 12, 2006 09:28 PM

Don't make the decision based on the future value of the JCW car. You'll definitely lose money on the deal if you think of it as an investment.

minihune Aug 12, 2006 09:44 PM

If you are certain you could sell your MINI in a few years then go-

JCW and be careful not to break anything.

If you want to drive and keep your MINI for as long as possible and you might track your cabrio then-

Go turbo and don't forget some lightweight rims and wide wide sticky tires.

pberry51mini Aug 13, 2006 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by minihune
If you are certain you could sell your MINI in a few years then go-

JCW and be careful not to break anything.

If you want to drive and keep your MINI for as long as possible and you might track your cabrio then-

Go turbo and don't forget some lightweight rims and wide wide sticky tires.


This is really smart thinking - many have said that for the JCW money you can do way better with components rather than a package like JCW.
That said though, it really is nice to have a warranty while you thrash your Mini.

Long term - short term - that's really the question you should ask.

Gr8Force Aug 13, 2006 03:55 PM

I wouldn't go either route. Keep the MCS and wait for the M62 to come out. Most likely it'll be cheaper and more reliable than turbo. Word from those in the know (i.e. not me) is that it's for real. I'll go that way if good word continues to come out of that camp.

DarkMiniCooperS Aug 13, 2006 04:33 PM

Turbo route for sure!!

More power, and much more aggressive.

sdv515 Aug 13, 2006 04:49 PM

if your looking for the power then the turbo is for you. just keep the boost lower levels if reliability is a problem

trackster Aug 13, 2006 05:20 PM

Reliability is the key word here . There is a local shop with a SPI twin charge car back in for repair work. This time is for a seized supercharger. The first time was for a No. 1 piston replacment .

MINICHEF Aug 13, 2006 07:55 PM

love the power, but, must pass smog check to keep it on the street. ill stick with jcw.

Mastersonics Aug 13, 2006 09:59 PM

Hi everyone

thanks for your comments

I will go ahead and wait for the M62
it sounds promising especially after the email i received from Peter (M7)

If the M62 is a no go,
I think I will go for the Helix or the Madness
although I haven't heard anything about the Madness Turbo.


Has anyone heard anything about the Madness Turbo?


regards,
Charles

Motor On Aug 13, 2006 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Mastersonics
Hi everyone

thanks for your comments

I will go ahead and wait for the M62
it sounds promising especially after the email i received from Peter (M7)

If the M62 is a no go,
I think I will go for the Helix or the Madness
although I haven't heard anything about the Madness Turbo.


Has anyone heard anything about the Madness Turbo?


regards,
Charles

IF the M62 falls through have you consider other things out there like a Cosworth Stage 2, a piece of work I've heard very good things about and still leaves room for some of the more "converntional" mods for about the same cost as the JCW and should be highly reliable.

goin440 Aug 13, 2006 10:48 PM

JCW didn't close shop, MINI just became the exclusive distributer--which they already were in the US.

herbie hind Aug 14, 2006 03:54 PM

has anyone with a twurbo stripped a head bolt yet? it seems like way too much boost. somethings gotta give.


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