Oh ya.. any clips?

 

Cool

 

no did not, re-send it pls

 

Heres an idea for anyone who may want to have a system made for them.
I went to a muffer shop and they recomended this mufflers www.aero-turbine.com (The shop gave me a price about half of what the prices are listed on the web site.) Heres what they where going to do. Start with 2 1/2" at the head pipe back to the "Y" (No "T", "T" = bad flow.) then into 2" tubing (Sorry, but if you look closely at the above pic. you can see a kink in the tubing. The smaller the die. tubing the cleaner/smoother the bens. And two, 2" will flow good. Most systems "Y" into 1 3/4" tubing.) Then into two of the aero turbine mufflers and out the center. (For you who want BIG flow, you could do 3" down the center and "Y" into 2 1/2" use the turbine # 2540i, get a rear valence off a MC and cut a hole in the other side and have a left and right side tips. Install the valence 1st so the shop can line up the mufflers.) If that was too loud they would add a 2 1/2" res. in the center. The price was going to be $325. to $375. This is just a idea and my .02 cents. Sorry to the above owner not trying to down grade your system or work, like you said it works for you! I was going to do this but I found a used system on this site.

Best of luck to all

 

no, no problems at all, but there are vendors selling systems for $525.00 such as ALTA and Invidia, so if i am paying $375.00 might as well stretch a little bit more and get a nice cat-back. Like i said, this one was a live and learn deal, more like an experiment. Having a 2 1/2 head pipe is going to increase the noise a little bit. Honestly, my mods are directing me to a full headers and catback system, which will be on the car eventually. Thanks for the input.

 

New Pm Sent.

 

n00bs, making me laugh tho

 

Two quick questions:

1) What's the diameter of the straight pipe running from the cat to the resonator (or first muffler)? 2.25"?

2) What's the diameter of the pipe running from the resonator to the muffler? 2.25" also?

 

2.25 to the resonator, 2.5 between the *****....

Matt

 

Cool, thanks!

Follow-up: In building a custom one-ball like Berk's (ScuderiaMini) above, is there any tonal advantage to cutting the 2.25" just before the elbow, making the elbow 2.5" and using a muffler with a 2.5" inlet and outlet?

 

Try it and let us know!

Matt

 

I'm running 2.5" from the cat all the way through the elbow to the muffer. Makes the exhaust note a little deeper than running 2.25" back to the elbow. I love the sound, but don't know if it buys me anything other than the extra weight due to the pipe diamter (more metal).

 

Why not the other way around. 2.5 to the resonator and 2.25 between the *****. I think this makes more sense.

What if I dont have a resonator, straight pipe from the CAT, Y pipe and two Magnaflow mufflers. Will it be loud?

 

that would be awesome

 

Yea, i know its awesome.. but does it going to be loud? I like it stock or slightly louder, like milltek but not more than that.

 

it should be louder than Miltek, i thought you already done something by now .

 

You'd have to ask a MINI design engineer why they used the diameters they did, but the larger diameter between the ***** is probably used due to all the bends.
To everyone new to the one-ball discussion: I guess some folks use the word 'resonator' for what I would call a muffler. In my mind a resonator is straight-thru and a muffler either bends, bounces, or offsets the exhaust path. Since the ***** in the MINI change the exhaust path 180-degrees, I vote for calling them mufflers.
To those that want to junk the original mufflers: The original mufflers, from looking at cut open photos in one of these threads, appear to be a pretty good high-flow [and stainless steel] design. There's just one too many and they are slightly overweight, IMHO.

-B

 

Good point Barry -- I guess I'm just looking to change the tone with an aftermarket muffler, not really get more flow perse.

Side question:
When installing the one-ball mod w/ aftermarket muffler, can anyone think of a reason not locate that muffler on the passenger side, instead of the traditional driver's side? It's a minor evening out of weight distributon, but I figure, why not.

 

Here's my two cents - the beauty of the 1-ball is its simplicity =
2 cuts on stock system
insert 1-ball pipe
little investement
couple of ponies.
little bit more sound.
wieght savings.

Deviating from this (the above) in my mind negates what the 1-ball accomplishes. Those seeking more sound, the 1-ball falls short and will not quench your accoustic thirst. This is what happened to me - I loved my 1-ball but it fell short sound wise and sexy tips wise. I think from here then one needs to jump to a catback system. Catbacks start at 299 and numerous choices appear in the 500-600 range. If the issue is cost, then look for a used system or just save up. I have seen from time to time some excellent deals. And when it comes time to sell the car - many will not have an issue with a nice looking aftermarket system.

re your side question - clearly it can be done but now you are into more fabricating. The problem with building your own is 1) you may actually lose power/tq and 2) you may not be happy with the result and continue to spend more money.

okay thats actually ten cents worth

 

The potential problems with fabricating a custom exhaust system have been mentioned many times, but you know what, I'm willing to take the risk. If those problems become a reality, I'll put the stock system back on, and call it $200 (parts & labor) in the name of experimentation. I like being different than most of the masses, and that sometimes means that things you try are going to backfire. I think the muffler and tip I have picked out have a lot of potential, and that's good enough for me.

After all, the only system I want (Mille Miglia) is at a pricepoint I could never justify (over $1000). So why not try something for $200 and see what I get? I'm not looking to be an exhaust tuner, just a guy tinkering with his car...

 

I didn't realize what your objective was. Tinker away, have alot of fun.

 

It's just a bent resonator. Call it what you want, but the only muffler it resembles is a bent glass pack!

Matt

 

So, My plan going to the exhaust shop and ask them to custom my exhaust by having 2.5" pipe from cat, Y pipe into 2 mufflers is not recomended?

I kind of agree with you saying that I might lose power/ TQ. That's the reason why im havent been doing it since I got the car. Somehow, I need to do something with the rattling ONEBALL muffler. By replacing it with just 1muffler will make the car go loud, so I've been thinking if I could custom it like Milltek. Still no good?

 

Look at the veriety of what many have done, and what can be bought as a bolt on, and you'll find many very happy customers, and some not so happy ones.

as far as a specific combination that gets welded together at a shop, like BahamaBart says, you'll only know when you leave, and if you don't like it, the only way to fix it is via Mr Visa Card! But really, with any exhaust, we're not talking about mind-blowing levels of performance difference, so any risk is pretty small.

That said, get your priorities straight first, what's most important? Weight, cost, sound or looks? Once you have that straigntened out, you can make better decisions.... Also, will you be doing more to the car? Will you need more "capacity" later? That can effect your decision as well.

Matt

 

from the sound clip, that doesn't sound too loud for me at all. I wonder if you could do a 3" on this. Or would that be just crazy loud? I have an appointment to go get a quote on this, so I'm trying to see what you guys think?