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johntotah94 10-27-2018 11:56 AM

Open F56 hood scoop
 
I talked to Evolve Automotive and looks like they found a way to open the hood scoop on F56.

I did this on my R56 to cool down under hood/intake temps. I care about that more than aerodynamics.

When I glanced at it in the past, it looks difficult to do on F56.

Anyone have ideas on how to do so? Or successfully done it?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...87d0ab4fd.jpeg

Mini_Vinnie 10-27-2018 04:53 PM

Duell AG posted something similar to that on their Instagram page. It was around $2200 if I remember correctly

That intake is beautiful though

dpcompt 10-27-2018 05:22 PM

Opening the hood scoop
 
The F56S needs to run at a narrow, but high temperature range. If you open that scoop, wouldn't you be adding cool air to the engine compartment, but not the air intake. Doesn't sound like a good idea.Wouldn't be more effective to add a device that would cool air going into the intake and keeping the engine compartment like it is?

#Dragon# 10-28-2018 12:37 AM

From looking at some of the first pictures of the design they just cut to ovals in the metal section just under the scoop which is not to hard to do.
my concern with this design is were does the water go when it rains ? I canot see any rain drain section in the intake.

SFMCS 10-28-2018 03:12 PM

They said that the inner unit has drain holes.
Looking at the photo, and my F56S, it appears that MINI originally intended to have a unit similar to this. Otherwise, why have the rectangular holes? Since I have a CAI, it may increase flow a little but probably will not have any noticeable effect. With this system I could see some benefits, over the factory OEM system. It appears that the "fake" screen has not been removed and the intake area is actually on the bottom. That would give an opening to the inner, rectangular openings. While the rubber(ish) seals on the intake does match the hood inner opening, the upper opening is much smaller, perhaps 1/3. Notice the position of the upper left retaining nut, it is inside the opening. Makes mods of the factory unit not plausible. I need to check out a unit for the R56.
A 50% screen, replacing the OEM fake one, with a 90 degree bend to cover an inch of the horizontal material (removed), may provide a little more free air to the CAI. May try it. Being at 6,500 ft. elv. any additional air is beneficial.

WhatV8 10-29-2018 06:05 PM

I know the F56 isn't the same as the F54, but there is a thread of a functional scoop development over here:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...velopment.html

May be worth a look and see if you can glean some info from CPWillys work. Good luck.

Clutch Wotan 11-08-2018 09:00 AM

this works as well

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SoCalF56 11-13-2018 05:27 PM

The Eventuri intake is now available for preorder. Seems to be around $1,600 which to me seems absolutely insane. At the price you could get a tune and FBO. With any quality cold air system and an intercooler setup, the F56 stays plenty cool as far as intake temps are concerned.

Mini_Vinnie 11-14-2018 06:02 AM

$1600 ..... I'll pass. There is a lot more things I can buy for my car than an intake with that price

SoCalF56 11-23-2018 11:43 PM


Originally Posted by Clutch Wotan (Post 4431175)

Is this your car? If so, would you mind elaborating/posting some more pictures on how you set everything up?

G26okie 11-24-2018 02:40 AM

Ton of info about the new eventuri scoop and intake here:
http://www.eventuri.net/products/f56...er-s-jcw/#tab2

Yeah, it's $1,550 but damn I just might do it. I had the cravenspeed intake on my car for a week, but heatsoak and it's "short ram" design did not do the car any favors.

Right now for me it's between the eventuri intake or Amsechs carbon intake.
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Mini_Vinnie 11-24-2018 05:33 AM

It looks great thats for sure but the alleged hp numbers are pretty much universal for all the intakes in the market.

But, one thing good about cars, to each its own! Im jealous if you pull the trigger.

G26okie 11-24-2018 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4433835)
It looks great thats for sure but the alleged hp numbers are pretty much universal for all the intakes in the market.

But, one thing good about cars, to each its own! Im jealous if you pull the trigger.

I think the difference here is eventuri is dynoing with the hood closed, where as the short ram style intakes are going to loose their gains as soon as the hood is closed due to hot air.

I've got an email into dinan to see how the elite will play with intakes and an email into eventuri with some questions.

vetsvette 11-24-2018 07:12 AM

That is a sweet looking setup. After spending $800 for the ArmaSpeed intake I was starting to think maybe I needed some adult supervision..... or maybe a straight jacket! :grin: But, for a mere $800 more I could have a system that looks sweeter and makes no more horsepower. I'm not knocking the Eventuri at all, but if I dropped that much on an intake that is mostly bling, I'd be looking to book an extended stay in a rubber room. As Vinnie put so succinctly, "to each his own". That's half the fun of a Mini... making it uniquely your own.

pjsjr13 11-24-2018 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by vetsvette (Post 4433848)
That is a sweet looking setup. After spending $800 for the ArmaSpeed intake I was starting to think maybe I needed some adult supervision..... or maybe a straight jacket! :grin: But, for a mere $800 more I could have a system that looks sweeter and makes no more horsepower. I'm not knocking the Eventuri at all, but if I dropped that much on an intake that is mostly bling, I'd be looking to book an extended stay in a rubber room. As Vinnie put so succinctly, "to each his own". That's half the fun of a Mini... making it uniquely your own.

When is UPS delivering yours?:lol:

vetsvette 11-24-2018 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by pjsjr13 (Post 4433859)
When is UPS delivering yours?:lol:

Afraid I'm gonna have to take a hard pass on that one. Even though my kids are grown, they still expect Christmas presents, and I can't afford both. Sure is purdy though.

G26okie 11-25-2018 12:17 PM

Well, I just placed my order. IND distribution has a black Friday sale going on and it took $200 off.

Yeah it's expensive, but this is the final mod I plan on doing on the car to complement the dinan elite and I wanted some serious bling under the hood and one of the highest quality products available.

I hope I don't regret it.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...90703ee21f.jpg
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isugoo 11-26-2018 08:34 PM

can't wait to see actual pics and intake sound clip. debating between AWE and Gruppe M for my F56S for myself.

charrigan 11-27-2018 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by isugoo (Post 4434325)
can't wait to see actual pics and intake sound clip. debating between AWE and Gruppe M for my F56S for myself.

sound clip is on eventuri's website.

G26okie 11-27-2018 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by #Dragon# (Post 4428906)
From looking at some of the first pictures of the design they just cut to ovals in the metal section just under the scoop which is not to hard to do.
my concern with this design is were does the water go when it rains ? I canot see any rain drain section in the intake.

The rectangular cut-outs are already under the stock scoop. The eventuri scoop fastens into place just like stock except it has two cut-outs that match up to the holes already in the hood and then seal to the ducting for the intake. As for water, I emailed briefly with eventuri and they said water is not an issue, the intake has been tested for about a year. They are located outside London so I am sure the climate provides plenty of rain to test. This is what they say about water on their website:


Since we have a direct airflow path to the filter, it is important that we also allow for water to be drained before reaching the filter. In order to protect against excess water ingress, we have designed several features into the intake components as follows.
  • 1) The top of the scoop covers the openings which stops rainfall entering the duct when the car is at a standstill.
  • 2) The scoop has 2 flow directing ramps which also act as a water barrier by forcing the water to fall down onto the base of the duct rather than moving straight to the filter area.
  • 3) The duct has 2 openings to allow water to drain out - above the radiator and also a drain hole before the filter housing connection.
  • 4) The face of the duct as it meets the filter housing has a wall on which the rubber edging is secured. This wall stops any build up of water from directly entering the filter and water is drained through the extra drain hole.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...34f574732f.jpg


ECSTuning 11-27-2018 07:47 AM

Let us know how you like it, we just started to carry it for MINI. I like how they incorporated a drip design as we did in our ECS Tuning R55-R61 Carbon Fiber Intake.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-eventuri-parts/v-mini/

Clutch Wotan 11-29-2018 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by SoCalF56 (Post 4433823)
Is this your car? If so, would you mind elaborating/posting some more pictures on how you set everything up?


Think its quite self explaining that it is my car :popcorn: if you follow on FB

- it also delivers additional air to the brakes, which is important as the original brake ventilation especially for short tracks is not sufficient , if you use the brakes hard.
- it keeps the hood aerodynamical smoother and produce lower drag
- The original airbox is state of the art, the additional port itself supplies enough fresh air to make the snorkels obsolete
- the flow is better
- it costs a fraction compared to the Eventuri
- it keeps for 3rd party inspections the original look, none oh these fresh air devices are on german roads legal, and your find yourself awarded with a fine and rebuild

The original airbox layout with changed port makes the use of a sub cool element possible which i will not show :)

ZiaMan24 12-03-2018 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 4434394)
Let us know how you like it, we just started to carry it for MINI. I like how they incorporated a drip design as we did in our ECS Tuning R55-R61 Carbon Fiber Intake.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-eventuri...-f56-cf-int~v/

How come your site says it's not compatible with the F54? Eventuri's website does show F54, in the URL at least...

SoCalF56 12-04-2018 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 4434394)
Let us know how you like it, we just started to carry it for MINI. I like how they incorporated a drip design as we did in our ECS Tuning R55-R61 Carbon Fiber Intake.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-eventuri...-f56-cf-int~v/

Do you guys accept severed body parts as payment? My wallet doesnt want to give up $1,500 :lol:

ECSTuning 12-04-2018 12:12 PM

Only good body parts ;) Checking on that fitment. They must have added it since the release.


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