Drivetrain Water/Meth Injection for B46/B48
#26
Easiest way to explain is the MAP sensor is priority in engine calibration when under vaccum. The T-MAP sensor is priority under boost. This is why ALL tuning boxes alter signals to the T-MAP. The better more fine tuned tuning boxes use MAF, MAP, and TMAP.
MAP, TMAP, MAF, and throttle body position are all looked at to give the best resolution at idle and low load.
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#30
Drill a hole on the stock rubber hose and use this http://www.aquamist-direct.com/806-3...aptor-4-5-6mm/
Now just gotta figure out what size thickness the hose is...
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#33
right! That’s the goal. Not going anymore aggressive on the tune. Just using WMI for safety. Higher octane and increased cooling. Since I use 91 octane and don’t have an Intercooler.
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#35
With the JB4 its so nice. It can bump to safety maps. Add meth to data logs. Control parameters via laptop or phone (instead of tiny dials on meth boards).
Can't wait until its all integrated.
#36
Are you planning on running it with your current tune (RPM) and using the JB4's FSB or are you using the JB4's tune with it's FSB? Also do you have a shop that will dyno and tweak the tune for the meth or will you send logs to Terry to adjust for you? Sorry for all the questions hahah. I'm just trying to see which road you're going to take.
#37
Hi all! Wanted to interject as I am about to go all in on this meth project myself.
I have an F56 JCW, and I work at Baron MINI in Kansas City. We have a customer who came in recently and said "make it as crazy as you can" without any budget cap. Among many other things, we're installing an AEM meth injection kit.
In doing some research, we discovered that it is not uncommon to convert the wiper fluid tank to be the reservoir for the methanol mix. As we discovered, wiper fluid is usually about 70/30 water and methanol, where as the solution recommended for this purpose is about 50/50, which will work fine as a windshield washer fluid as well.
The technician working on the car removed the fluid line fitting from the provided AEM tank, and threaded it into the very bottom of the wiper fluid tank of the customer's R58. Because the AEM tank had a level warning sensor, it was unhappy because it was disconnected and not used in the wiper tank. By splicing together the wires for the sensor, it was happy, thinking the tank always has fluid in it, and we can now rely on the car's built in wiper fluid warning light as a level sensor for the methanol.
With this idea, there is no external tank to mount, no long lines to run, and no lost trunk space. This is when I got excited and ordered my kit.
For the F56, the ideal place to mount the injector nozzle is just after the intercooler, at the bottom of the boost pipe that runs up to the throttle body. This gives the mixture plenty of time to atomize before it reaches the sensors.
I'll be using a sandwich bung that I found at the link below to drill into the factory rubber boost pipe.
http://www.usrallyteam.com/index.php...roducts_id=304
I'll also be using NM Engineering's Boost Sensor Tap for the kit to use as a boost reference.
http://www.nm-eng.com/345/11/0/3091/...ensor-tap.html
Hope this is helpful! I'll post updates when I get to work on my car. Should be pretty soon.
I have an F56 JCW, and I work at Baron MINI in Kansas City. We have a customer who came in recently and said "make it as crazy as you can" without any budget cap. Among many other things, we're installing an AEM meth injection kit.
In doing some research, we discovered that it is not uncommon to convert the wiper fluid tank to be the reservoir for the methanol mix. As we discovered, wiper fluid is usually about 70/30 water and methanol, where as the solution recommended for this purpose is about 50/50, which will work fine as a windshield washer fluid as well.
The technician working on the car removed the fluid line fitting from the provided AEM tank, and threaded it into the very bottom of the wiper fluid tank of the customer's R58. Because the AEM tank had a level warning sensor, it was unhappy because it was disconnected and not used in the wiper tank. By splicing together the wires for the sensor, it was happy, thinking the tank always has fluid in it, and we can now rely on the car's built in wiper fluid warning light as a level sensor for the methanol.
With this idea, there is no external tank to mount, no long lines to run, and no lost trunk space. This is when I got excited and ordered my kit.
For the F56, the ideal place to mount the injector nozzle is just after the intercooler, at the bottom of the boost pipe that runs up to the throttle body. This gives the mixture plenty of time to atomize before it reaches the sensors.
I'll be using a sandwich bung that I found at the link below to drill into the factory rubber boost pipe.
http://www.usrallyteam.com/index.php...roducts_id=304
I'll also be using NM Engineering's Boost Sensor Tap for the kit to use as a boost reference.
http://www.nm-eng.com/345/11/0/3091/...ensor-tap.html
Hope this is helpful! I'll post updates when I get to work on my car. Should be pretty soon.
Last edited by CarFreak427; 05-04-2018 at 01:58 PM.
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aj1000 (05-24-2019)
#38
I'll also be using NM Engineering's Boost Sensor Tap for the kit to use as a boost reference.
http://www.nm-eng.com/345/11/0/3091/...ensor-tap.html
Hope this is helpful! I'll post updates when I get to work on my car. Should be pretty soon.
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#41
Are you planning on running it with your current tune (RPM) and using the JB4's FSB or are you using the JB4's tune with it's FSB? Also do you have a shop that will dyno and tweak the tune for the meth or will you send logs to Terry to adjust for you? Sorry for all the questions hahah. I'm just trying to see which road you're going to take.
#42
Are you planning on running it with your current tune (RPM) and using the JB4's FSB or are you using the JB4's tune with it's FSB? Also do you have a shop that will dyno and tweak the tune for the meth or will you send logs to Terry to adjust for you? Sorry for all the questions hahah. I'm just trying to see which road you're going to take.
#43
Anyone know if methanol injection affects spark plugs? Went back to stock map since I was having dealer work on stuff on the car. Car is having a "sputter problem" on acceleration even with the stock map with no meth. I wonder if meth did something to my plugs unless it is a totally unrelated issue. I ordered new plugs as a precaution. Sounds like the car chokes mid way through acceleration. Will clean MAF when plugs come in also.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
Thanks
Thoughts/Suggestions?
Thanks
#44
Anyone know if methanol injection affects spark plugs? Went back to stock map since I was having dealer work on stuff on the car. Car is having a "sputter problem" on acceleration even with the stock map with no meth. I wonder if meth did something to my plugs unless it is a totally unrelated issue. I ordered new plugs as a precaution. Sounds like the car chokes mid way through acceleration. Will clean MAF when plugs come in also.
Thoughts/Suggestions?
Thanks
Thoughts/Suggestions?
Thanks
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CarFreak427 (08-06-2018)
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#46
After a few months running my meth kit, I am very happy with it. Tons more power, especially torque. Even with my 200 treadwear track tires, I can spin the tires all the way through first and second, and chirp in third. I have my nozzle mounted in the spot described by Andrew Park.
#47
How do you guys feel about drilling here for the meth nozzle (The Red "X" on the right side of the photo)? I’d like it before the sensor so the ECU can see the drop in temp and not overly raise boost with high IATs since I don’t have an Intercooler.
Waaaay to close? Or you guys think it will do?
Seems like the easiest install. Going from the bottom near the IC will likely be very difficult.
Thoughts?
Waaaay to close? Or you guys think it will do?
Seems like the easiest install. Going from the bottom near the IC will likely be very difficult.
Thoughts?
Last edited by johntotah94; 08-15-2018 at 06:24 PM.
#48
if you have a mirror version of that BEHR unit, it might fit.
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Forge pipe is a good place for some injectors as well.