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Bytetronik 12-15-2017 07:13 AM

Full Flash via OBD2 has arrived for the MINI-F56 Platform
 
Full OBD2 flashing on the BMW F-series has just completed successfully, and we simply need to make some code modification on the software for it to work on the MINI B48/B46s and B38/B36s... stay tuned for additional updates.. :)

===== Updated Group Buy List Below (Dec 27, 2017) ======

Just a quick update: software is fully tested and everything worked as expected. Tested the end-user flashing cable and it's a GO :nod:

Taking reservations on Group Buy (10 units): $750 + shipping; upgraded spark plugs are $21.95 each (Pricing will likely go back to normal after the new year).
1) vetsvette
2) Lee
3) Jason S.
4) Mini_Vinnie
5) nrq31467
6) John T (in Jersey)
7) Mimaki (Australia)
8) smw (SA)
9) Dylan in Canada
X) Han in SK

Directions:
  • Fill out the Tuning Checklist (https://www.bytetronik.com/wp-conten..._Checklist.pdf)
  • Email this list back to us (info@bytetronik.com) and we'll assign you a CRM number.
  • Mark on there the prefer shipping method (FedEx Ground, 2-Day or Ground).
  • When it's ready to ship, we'll send you an online invoice with actual shipping included.

CooperT 12-15-2017 07:31 AM

Sweet!

toyopet 12-15-2017 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4352684)
Full OBD2 flashing on the BMW F-series has just completed successfully, and we simply need to make some code modification on the software for it to work on the MINI B48/B46s and B38/B36s... stay tuned for additional updates.. :)

Is this detectable if the ECU is flashed back to stock before taking it in to the dealer for service?

Mini_Vinnie 12-15-2017 09:27 AM

So does this mean we wont have to send our ECU in then?

curtyv 12-15-2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4352710)
So does this mean we wont have to send our ECU in then?

Seems like it. Very interested to hear more about this as my jaunt into the world of piggyback mods was fun, but a proper ECU tune at the right price is much more enticing.

Mini_Vinnie 12-15-2017 11:00 AM

Well dang.... I guess I might have to hold off on the Elite until more info is released

Bytetronik 12-15-2017 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4352710)
So does this mean we wont have to send our ECU in then?

Correct. Everything will be done through the OBD2 port.


Originally Posted by curtyv (Post 4352733)
Seems like it. Very interested to hear more about this as my jaunt into the world of piggyback mods was fun, but a proper ECU tune at the right price is much more enticing.

We have many customer who came from the piggyback 'world' and they are happy with our tune.


Originally Posted by toyopet (Post 4352697)
Is this detectable if the ECU is flashed back to stock before taking it in to the dealer for service?

You can always flash it back to OEM stock when you take it back to dealership for service.

Common misconception: If your ECU/DME has been reflashed by a third party (other than BMW) then the warranty is voided automatically... Not entirely true! The purpose of the OBD2 port was mandated by govt to specifically allow third party access the ECU/DME so independent shops can use tools such as Autologic to service these vehicles. Of course, this doesn't mean one can (or should) go in and wildly adjust the parameters without recourse.

Our tunes have been dyno proven (both by us and by our customers' dyno graphs), street tested for the past three plus years, and raced on the track by our customers with great results...

Come January 2018, we will have new performance products for R53, R56 and F56 :thumbsup:

vetsvette 12-15-2017 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4352746)
Correct. Everything will be done through the OBD2 port.

You can always flash it back to OEM stock when you take it back to dealership for service.

So, we'll have a release date next month? I'm thinking about returning my Elite that hasn't even been out of the box yet. Do you have a ballpark price that can help with my decision?


Edit: Just got a return authorization for my Elite. Would be nice to have a little more info than this tease. Mainly approximate release date and approximate cost, cause I'm gonna be losing >$100 bucks to return my Elite.

Bytetronik 12-15-2017 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by vetsvette (Post 4352766)
So, we'll have a release date next month? I'm thinking about returning my Elite that hasn't even been out of the box yet. Do you have a ballpark price that can help with my decision?


Edit: Just got a return authorization for my Elite. Would be nice to have a little more info than this tease. Mainly approximate release date and approximate cost, cause I'm gonna be losing >$100 bucks to return my Elite.

Release date should be right around the new year and pricing would be inline with our current level, $800 shipped to the Conti-USA (OBD2 flashing module with a Stage-1 tune and the Stock tune).

2017All4 12-15-2017 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4352779)
Release date should be right around the new year and pricing would be inline with our current level, $800 shipped to the Conti-USA (OBD2 flashing module with a Stage-1 tune and the Stock tune).

Can we get some performance gain numbers at various RPM, please??

Mini_Vinnie 12-15-2017 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4352779)
Release date should be right around the new year and pricing would be inline with our current level, $800 shipped to the Conti-USA (OBD2 flashing module with a Stage-1 tune and the Stock tune).


Oh hell yeah, cheaper than Dinan, definitely not buying that now!

If you are playing a December fools joke Im going to be pissed :mad:

punkgeek 12-15-2017 02:09 PM

I am following this thread so hard... :):):)

Bytetronik 12-15-2017 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by 2017All4 (Post 4352782)
Can we get some performance gain numbers at various RPM, please??

We have posted a few dyno graphs comparing the stock tune against our Stage-1 tune and the 'delta' is quite drastic. Below is the link to our original post:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ml#post4248543


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4352787)
Oh hell yeah, cheaper than Dinan, definitely not buying that now!

If you are playing a December fools joke Im going to be pissed :mad:

No jokers in the house...

Minnie.the.Moocher 12-15-2017 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4352746)
Common misconception: If your ECU/DME has been reflashed by a third party (other than BMW) then the warranty is voided automatically... Not entirely true! The purpose of the OBD2 port was mandated by govt to specifically allow third party access the ECU/DME so independent shops can use tools such as Autologic to service these vehicles. Of course, this doesn't mean one can (or should) go in and wildly adjust the parameters without recourse.

You state a "common misconception", say it isn't entirely true and you don't really address it. You just talk about the purpose of the OBD2 port.

Unless you can specifically give a reason, I'm going to go out on a limb and say if you adjust even one parameter in the slightest you have probably dashed all hope of warranty if MINI can prove it.

Third party access to read and erase codes isn't the same as tuning.

Bytetronik 12-15-2017 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by Minnie.the.Moocher (Post 4352799)
You state a "common misconception", say it isn't entirely true and you don't really address it. You just talk about the purpose of the OBD2 port.

Third party access to read and erase codes isn't the same as tuning.

The Autologic and similar Factory tools can do much more than just 'read and erase codes' ... So do you consider flashing a factory JCW map into the ECU an act of 'tuning'?

I can't address this topic b/c I don't know of any instance where the warranty was specifically denied b/c the car was flashed. If you have stories, then feel free to share with the community. I have stories of where the car's warranty was denied b/c the CAT was removed or modified.

And I do know of instances where owners of exotic vehicles blew up their motors at the race track while the car was still under warranty coverage and their claims were denied b/c the computer logged the events prior to the catastrophic failure.

Bottom line is this: Just b/c a car is under warranty, it doesn't mean the mfg will cover the car should they determined that the car was 'misused'; on the contrary, just b/c an ECU was flashed, that doesn't automatically void your warranty... there are plenty of gray area in between the two scenarios...

Should you want to discuss this topic further, feel free to start a separate thread.

2017All4 12-15-2017 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4352814)
Just b/c a car is under warranty, it doesn't mean the mfg will cover the car should they determined that the car was 'misused';

It has always been my view, regardless of expressed or implied warranties offered by any third party, or the lack thereof, ANY TIME one chooses to modify a car in any way, it's buyer beware. You pays your money and you takes your chances.

Hopefully, reputable suppliers and manufacturers will try their level best to offer quality, tested products. Even so, when making a warranty claim, YMMV.

If we want the extra performance, we need to assume some of the risk. Seems fair to me.

What isn't fair is misrepresentation, expressed or implied. I hope we can all agree on that.

Bytetronik 12-15-2017 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by 2017All4 (Post 4352818)
It has always been my view, regardless of expressed or implied warranties offered by any third party, or the lack thereof, ANY TIME one chooses to modify a car in any way, it's buyer beware. You pays your money and you takes your chances.

Yep, we are in agreement. Even putting on a CAI could potentially void your warranty... so proceed with caution...

If people are concerned about their warranty, then they should leave it OEM stock until the warranty coverage has expired, or buy from a company that offers 'Third Party warranty" coverage.

yesti 12-15-2017 05:28 PM

Does the F56 run hot like the R56 (~220F)? If so, does the tune lower the water temperature?

vetsvette 12-15-2017 06:11 PM

Yes the F56 runs hot. Mine runs 224-230 all the time. Not sure with the tune. I do know that if you turn the Max A/C on the temp will drop 60-70º in a matter of minutes.

yesti 12-15-2017 08:14 PM

OK, so same as the R56 then. Maybe stage 2+ will lower the temps, not necessarily for more power but for engine/transmission longevity?

Bytetronik 12-18-2017 08:34 AM

Software has been updated and operational.
 
We have successfully tested the flashing of a MINI F56 stock ECU via the OBD2. Yep, no need to open the ECU for unlocking; everything can be done through the OBD port. Our software has been updated (see pics)... Stay tuned for release date!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...86c5bd60a0.jpg
Bytetronik FlashAccess software updated to perform full OBD2 flashing w/o removing the ECU.

vetsvette 12-18-2017 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4353364)
We have successfully tested the flashing of a MINI F56 stock ECU via the OBD2. Yep, no need to open the ECU for unlocking; everything can be done through the OBD port. Our software has been updated (see pics)... Stay tuned for release date!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...86c5bd60a0.jpg

Bytetronik FlashAccess software updated to perform full OBD2 flashing w/o removing the ECU.

so, what do we need to install this? Do we need a Laptop

Bytetronik 12-18-2017 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by vetsvette (Post 4353368)
so, what do we need to install this? Do we need a PLaptop

Our software runs on Windows Platform. The programming process takes less than 10 minutes.

vetsvette 12-18-2017 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bytetronik (Post 4353370)
Our software runs on Windows Platform. The programming process takes less than 10 minutes.

rats. Was hoping I could get rid of my windows laptop. Only program on it is esys. Oh well. My new Elite is on the way back for a refund. Are you gonna have a sale when you release the product?

Mini_Vinnie 12-18-2017 10:01 AM

Double rats, Im a Mac guy so I need to get a windoze setup for this now

I get in line for the group buy!! ;)


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