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Does anyone have more info on the WMW tuning box for the B48? I emailed way a couple of times and didn't get any response.

https://www.waymotorworks.com/wmw-f5...ng-module.html
never heard of these guys, but from the looks of the box it is a rebranded tuner from TMC. I would stick with the Dinan stuff IMO, they have had great results thus far , plus they know BMW's and I hear they are working on a fully warranted unit like their higher end BMW counterparts. But, for a quick fix the Dinantronic sport module is great
 
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Originally Posted by subzero05
never heard of these guys, but from the looks of the box it is a rebranded tuner from TMC. I would stick with the Dinan stuff IMO, they have had great results thus far , plus they know BMW's and I hear they are working on a fully warranted unit like their higher end BMW counterparts. But, for a quick fix the Dinantronic sport module is great
WayMotorWorks is pretty well known in the online MINI community; his shop in Atlanta does MINIs and only MINIs; both routine and performance work. Way personally has a long history of contributing here on NAM, though it's fallen off in the past year.

Now, I'm just a customer and don't speak authoritatively, but the WMW tuning box existed before Dinan and some of the other options were on the market, at a time that RaceChip was selling their box for private labeling. I speculate that the Way box is one of those, and it's on the website because he has some still on the shelf (being passed over by the more inexpensive options now available).

But this is just speculation!

In any case, Way's a good vendor, with very competitive prices and fair shipping charges. (Half the time my credit card is charged for less than the website invoice because shipping cost less than the e-commerce system calculated. Way's shop could just pocket the extra few dollars, but they don't.)
 
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Originally Posted by bratling

But this is just speculation!
I don't know why Way doesn't respond to questions regarding their tuning box. I sent 2 emails.
 
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Originally Posted by toyopet
I don't know why Way doesn't respond to questions regarding their tuning box. I sent 2 emails.
hi Everyone
does anyone else has issues with Burger Tuning and their e mail answering and lack of communication?
thank you

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hi Everyone
does anyone else has issues with Burger Tuning and their e mail answering and lack of communication?
thank you

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Burger has a great forum with quick answers from Terry and staff
 
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Originally Posted by pjsjr13
Burger has a great forum with quick answers from Terry and staff
is it n54tech?
 
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Originally Posted by Dziuna
is it n54tech?
Yes
 
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Just curious if anyone has used any other piggy back systems and had more input?
 
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There are quite a few threads on various ones. Its a good split between Dinan and NM. Then there are us that are opting for the Byteronik (or similar vendors) that offer a ECU relash.

Personally, I went with the re-flash. I feel its safer and you arent tricking the ECU with a piggy-back.
 

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Cool. I want to piggy back so I can yank it and take it to the dealer if needed with no questions asked. I've been looking at the PowerChip GT as well.
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I just installed a NM on my 2015 S with 8000 miles. Took a 10 mile spin. Still on low setting. It really woke it up. Not sure I need more power. The gains must be listed conservatively.
 
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I just installed a NM on my 2015 S with 8000 miles. Took a 10 mile spin. Still on low setting. It really woke it up. Not sure I need more power. The gains must be listed conservatively.
How easy/quick of an install time? Fairly simple?
 
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JB4 is a beast!

Hobbes is my 2015 F55 Justa automatic. Loads of fun, but nothing special. First, I installed a custom exhaust with a resonator and a Magnaflow (wake-the-dead loud without it) which added about 18 WHP. Then I installed a Dinan Elite, which was good but not great and threw two false CELs that Dinan could never fix (or never tried to fix). After a year, I sent it back for a refund and replaced it with a Burger JB4. Hobbes was a tiger before (see what I did there), but now he's a beast! I was hoping for a 40 WHP boost, but I was blown away when I saw the dyno results (92 octane Texaco, both runs; no 93 octane in central Oregon):

Stock + exhaust: 124 WHP, 172 WTQE
Add JB4 Map 1: 220 WHP, 227 WTQE

That's almost double the HP with no other mods. The power comes on early, strong, and progressive up to redline. This thing's a hoot! The JB4 was an easy install and worth every penny. Now I'm hunting unsuspecting GTIs.
 
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wondering

Originally Posted by Dinan Engineering
Glad you are enjoying it. Tell your friends. =)
Why do you cover almost every year with 2009 through 2013 not supported.
 
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Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie
There are quite a few threads on various ones. Its a good split between Dinan and NM. Then there are us that are opting for the Byteronik (or similar vendors) that offer a ECU relash.

Personally, I went with the re-flash. I feel its safer and you arent tricking the ECU with a piggy-back.
Sadly I can't go the Dinan way, my year isn't supported.
 
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Originally Posted by I Am Hobbes
Hobbes is my 2015 F55 Justa automatic. Loads of fun, but nothing special. First, I installed a custom exhaust with a resonator and a Magnaflow (wake-the-dead loud without it) which added about 18 WHP. Then I installed a Dinan Elite, which was good but not great and threw two false CELs that Dinan could never fix (or never tried to fix). After a year, I sent it back for a refund and replaced it with a Burger JB4. Hobbes was a tiger before (see what I did there), but now he's a beast! I was hoping for a 40 WHP boost, but I was blown away when I saw the dyno results (92 octane Texaco, both runs; no 93 octane in central Oregon):

Stock + exhaust: 124 WHP, 172 WTQE
Add JB4 Map 1: 220 WHP, 227 WTQE

That's almost double the HP with no other mods. The power comes on early, strong, and progressive up to redline. This thing's a hoot! The JB4 was an easy install and worth every penny. Now I'm hunting unsuspecting GTIs.
Can you post the image of the Dyno results, never heard of anyone doubling there HP like that with just a piggyback unit, but i'm sure you got some gain in HP.
 
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Originally Posted by LouCypher
Can you post the image of the Dyno results, never heard of anyone doubling there HP like that with just a piggyback unit, but i'm sure you got some gain in HP.

Maybe different Dynos

Mustang Dynos read low, hence the heartbreaker moniker.
Dynojet reads hight, the dream maker!!
 
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Your claim is fishy, but if true I can't see your stock engine lasting for long.
 

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Your claim is fishy, but if true I can't see your stock engine lasting for long.
Wrong person to quote!!
 
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
Wrong person to quote!!
Fixed it.
 
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Originally Posted by 2017All4
Fixed it.
Opps, sorry
 
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Hi, I am new here, just picked up a 2019 Cooper JCW! I am about to install the NM Engineering Power Module. In California we only have 91 Octane gas, is there a noticeable difference using the low versus high settings? Also my friend seems to think that the power gain is temporary because the car will self adjust after driving it for a while? Does that make sense?
 
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Originally Posted by DoctorWill
Hi, I am new here, just picked up a 2019 Cooper JCW! I am about to install the NM Engineering Power Module. In California we only have 91 Octane gas, is there a noticeable difference using the low versus high settings? Also my friend seems to think that the power gain is temporary because the car will self adjust after driving it for a while? Does that make sense?
Your friend is wrong, it doesn't adapt to the chip and make it worthless.

As far as difference between the high/low, someone else will chime in with that I'm sure.
 
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My wife has a '17 MCS Clubman All4 (6MT). Does anyone have the Burger JB+? I don't want to change anything else on the car, but I've always felt it was ridiculous that a 2.0T made a measly 189hp. The low and mid range has plenty of pull but the power dies off, badly, at higher RPM. It feels like a diesel. Does the JB+ effectively take the cap off to allow the car to make the power it reasonably should in stock form? If so, $200 seems like a bargain.
 
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