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It's taking long for be because he is calibrating our crappy fuel. But who ever comes after me should be an easy process. Just long for the first car.
 
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It is official that you can tune through OBD. I seen it. Most of the tuning is done on the street. He dyno tuned in Europe and just is fine tuning here in the US. He says you don't drive to the store on the dyno, you don't drive to work on the dyno. So the best way to tune is on the street. Do a run. Adjust. Do another run. Adjust. Lots of dynos are not super accurate. What is super accurate is what the car's computer reads and what it tells us. And you can adjust from there.
 
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
It is official that you can tune through OBD. I seen it. Most of the tuning is done on the street. He dyno tuned in Europe and just is fine tuning here in the US. He says you don't drive to the store on the dyno, you don't drive to work on the dyno. So the best way to tune is on the street. Do a run. Adjust. Do another run. Adjust. Lots of dynos are not super accurate. What is super accurate is what the car's computer reads and what it tells us. And you can adjust from there.
Agreed. I've always tuned on the street but would also do a before and after on the dyno for comparison sake. Either way, glad things are getting done. Can't wait to hear how it feels.
 
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Just sucks. Trial and error. He's just extremely astonished on how shitty our fuel is. Like it's bad.
 
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Hmm.....not sure how old this is or if it still pertains to revo tech, but i did find this interesting...

http://www.goapr.com/revo/
 
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Hmm.....not sure how old this is or if it still pertains to revo tech, but i did find this interesting... http://www.goapr.com/revo/
The civil case is 11 years old. Don't think anything pertains to manic these days.
 
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
Pretty damn busy here. Gonna be a while. Trying to find a dyno but everyone is booked.
didn't notice you sneaking in a shot of my car there! good meeting you and your buddies at eurocode. hope the tune kicks *** and makes me regret thinking about getting rid of the mini.
 
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Originally Posted by ra2fanatic
Hmm.....not sure how old this is or if it still pertains to revo tech, but i did find this interesting...

http://www.goapr.com/revo/
it might be slightly interesting if apr modified bmws or minis.
 
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Saw 19 psi yesterday. Saw 20 psi just now.
That was in a full car thoe.
 
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Just realized Manic is not part of Revo. Sorry for the misunderstanding! Manic is not Revo!
 
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
It is official that you can tune through OBD. I seen it. Most of the tuning is done on the street. He dyno tuned in Europe and just is fine tuning here in the US. He says you don't drive to the store on the dyno, you don't drive to work on the dyno. So the best way to tune is on the street. Do a run. Adjust. Do another run. Adjust. Lots of dynos are not super accurate. What is super accurate is what the car's computer reads and what it tells us. And you can adjust from there.
Any of you guys that did now the tune with Manic have N18?
 
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Originally Posted by RanMini
Any of you guys that did now the tune with Manic have N18?
both cars at Eurocode today for the Manic tune were N18s (johntotah's Cooper S and someone else's Countryman).
 
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WTF, you going to give us first impressions or what?
 
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heading over there in a little bit in the countryman, 11am appointment, anyone else going to be there today?
 
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I want to see numbers, boost isn't always important when tuning these cars. Jan could get big numbers but also keep boost around 16-18lbs on a MCS(07-10). I want to see results.
 
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Originally Posted by RobMuntean
I want to see numbers, boost isn't always important when tuning these cars. Jan could get big numbers but also keep boost around 16-18lbs on a MCS(07-10). I want to see results.
i believe they're hitting the dyno today.
 
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Originally Posted by RobMuntean
I want to see numbers, boost isn't always important when tuning these cars. Jan could get big numbers but also keep boost around 16-18lbs on a MCS(07-10). I want to see results.
Who is Jan?

Yes, boost is not all...

And numbers are not all also, as you don't drug race Mini , the most imported is the power and torque above the curve!
 
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My car put 214 whp and 241 wtq.
On the Cooper S turbo
 
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
My car put 214 whp and 241 wtq.
On the Cooper S turbo
Thats great. How does it feel?
 
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
My car put 214 whp and 241 wtq. On the Cooper S turbo
Congrats! And that's on a stage 2 correct?
 
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Originally Posted by RanMini
Who is Jan? Yes, boost is not all... And numbers are not all also, as you don't drug race Mini , the most imported is the power and torque above the curve!
Jan is RMW(Revolution Motor Works).
 
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Yes. Stage 2. 100 degrees outside too. Probably affected my numbers.
 
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Originally Posted by johntotah94
Yes. Stage 2. 100 degrees outside too. Probably affected my numbers.
Now you got the SPS to change your maps correct? Using E85 and race fuel and such? But I'm sure you can dyno when it's going to be like 75 degrees later in the fall. What were some of the results on the countryman, just curious?
 
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Yeah. SPS.
91 mild. 91 aggressive. And race fuel or meth map. They're flashing a countryman now. Not sure if they will dyno it. But it is really hot outside. Excited to see how my car feels in cold weather.
 


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