thanks!

 

Don't have an answer, but I just upped my jet from a .7mm to .8 mm. I haven't measured the new flow rate but will this weekend when I have a helper (the lovely wife).

 

Actually there is very little maintenance. I add a half gallon every 600 miles. Apart from that I rarely touch it. I did change a jet today but that took 5 minutes and no tools.

 

Awesome Cerenkov. Looking Forward to your input. Last we talked at the meet in Raleigh, I told you my logs looked on point... However, I feel that there might be more to come with the increased alcohol flow. It's not a lot of money for a larger nozzle( but would hate to order and install only to find out it had negative effects rather than progressive results).

Let me know...

Thanks...

 

wow really? So it aerosolizes it pretty well? Pardon my lack of lingo, I assumed it consumed much more than that, I'm s commuter so that's a tank a week for me, so refill every two weeks, I guess they wouldn't be too bad.

 

The methanol kit is like installing an amplifier for your stereo. Methanol as been around since WWI, but had become the popular because of cooling properties, extra fuel and high octane.
Once I receive your ECU, let's talk about a meth kit and if you want to change your map C

 

sounds good sir!

 

Go to bed it's 1:30am! You must be changing diapers

 

hahaha, tomorrow is my day off, I have enjoyed a couple of drinks tonight! A 50+ hour work week is deserving of that!

 

It only sprays when boost levels are above a specified set-point (some systems also trigger on injector duty cycle). You can drive around all day and not actuate the system. It really depends on how you drive. If you're full throttle all the time then go ahead and buy some stock in methanol companies, but if you drive "normal" with spurts of enthusiasm then it will last a while.

Here's two links to other threads:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...n-systems.html

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-training.html

 

copied from our thread on Manic
Updated pricing and staged levels

Stage 1 $500
Standard car
Stage 1 + $550
FMIC + PANEL FILTER
FMIC + CAI
FMIC + CAI + CBE
Stage 2 $550
DP + FMIC
DP + FMIC + CAI
TBE + FMIC
TBE + FMIC + CAI
Stage 2+ $600
TBE + FMIC + CAI + RACE FUEL
TBE + FMIC + CAI + METH INJECTION

Stage 3 and above are anything turbo swapped, built engine, ported heads etc.
Jcw turbo on mcs counts as stage 3 btw

 

And cost of going from stage to stage?

 

just the price difference between the stages.. Unsure about going from stage 1+ to stage 2 since they are the same price but would think it would be $50 at least??

 

OK thx!

 

Here's a log with the 0.8 mm jet. Very similar results except for intake temperatures dropped about twice as much.

If it was me, on Map C, I would try for 500cc flow, for the sole reason that Manic recommends it.

 

So I guess the true question is, could there be any negative effects when pumping too much alcohol? At one point in the past, I ran the wrong Nozzle with my JB+. I upped the Nozzle so I could run the JB @ 80%, or rather the 3 o'clock position. My MINI went into limp mode. Took off the JB and same results. Turned out I was running a 600cc/min nozzle. (But TBT, that was while running Boost Juice 48/52 Water/Meth Snow performance blend, not M1) It seemed that the DME did not like the extra H2O. Not sure if this will happen with straight alcohol. I get it that Manic stated a 500cc/min flow rate was recommended for Stage 2 + on Map C. But, I'd like to know whether to run straight Meth/M1 or not. And-or if 100 plus octane/or what octane/race gas. If we are going to push our MINIs to that limiting threshold for the fact of pure adrenaline via our enthusiastic nature, I would hope someone can provide an example of the test bed Map C was produced upon. I.e. Left and Right Limits.

Am I way off by over thinking this. Let me know.

Thanks NAM...

 

Wow. Mario took care of my stage 2.5 and all I gotta say so far is WOW. And I'm only on map A. Took it for a blast on my usual weekend route and every hill is no problem, the car pulls and pulls and pulls! Will get some more wheel time and logging in this week, but so far everything looks and feels great.

 

I was just looking at this again today. I am running the stage 2+ and have run both b and C maps with meth, and I have not seen anything above 18 or so PSI. Sill question, but can't the size of the intercooler cause you to loose PSI? I was reading into the Alta intercooler I am running and it states only a 1.5 psi loss of boost. Just wondering if that is why I have not seen 20 psi.

 

Those were examples , please consult your Manic dealer. Every cars spec'd boost levels are different. We don't know what your target pressures are. We verify all our maps when flashed in car/in house and have not had any issues.

 

So to quell any misconception, this is in no way shape or form an attempt to discredit tuners... As I know it, these Tunes are Maps that are created and offered to Tuners via an interested investment of said tune to purchase credits and program tunes to local DMEs...

My question is forwarded to the manufacturer which created the tune that states said levels I.e. Lev.1, Lev.1+1 --- to --- Lev. 2+. What y'all think

 

Glad you you like it and you will be even happier when use get to use map B and C. Keep us posted on your opinions of higher maps. I have a feeling you will be wanting a larger turbo soon. Enjoy your vacation, tearing up the streets of SF

 

For 100% meth I don't think it will cause issues. Unlike water it's fuel so the DME should be able to trim it out if necessary. See if you are maxing out your fuel trims. Even if you do you would just run rich.

On the other hand if you're not running the required amount of meth then it could be harmful, in an expensive way.

As I understood it map C requires race gas or meth. No need to run both.

 

First off we are not tuners we are dealers. Nick at Manic is the tuner. We just load his maps that he created. We do get info on said maps but do not create them. We do buy credits to use his maps. Not quite sure on the second part of your post. They create the levels and price points. All Manic dealers just sell and load Nicks maps. No Manic dealers are tuning.

 

I am probably over thinking it. Im going to pull the trigger and up my nozzle.

 

I have been running the 500cc jet. With the Aquamist system this is a 1.0 jet. I have used it on all maps with no problem. I was very hesitant at first as well but you will be fine. I actually went for a carbon cleaning yesterday as I am at 62k and there was barely any carbon. Is that related to the use of meth? Maybe...