That's correct. That was just base line runs with the car back to stock and one with the AP w/ tune. The Turbo Back is back on and will hopefully make it on the dyno tonight. Last night it started raining and weather didn't match so we waited. That graph speaks a lot for the AP though.

Wow interesting thread :lol: So a read thru and it sounds like people here are saying its way expensive....really? Hmm.....just looked at Altas turbo back and its a whole $120. cheaper, wow that's a lot of money...not :lol: Looking at the two systems and having personally seen many Alta cat backs from the R53 and the R56....umm...quality control was not there :no: And I own one, so I have nothing to hide. Looked at Borlas system....hmm....$920. for just the cat back...add a DP and I believe your close? Then all this about dynos......:lol: wow the R53 engine wars again :razz: I do believe that most all systems will be close to one another, power wise, so most often not it comes down to what you feel best about. This systems looks to be very well made, and should last a long time, like the old saying goes, "you get what you pay for" :thumbsup: Oh and some of you newbies here, you do know who ABF is right? Hmm...the maker of the FASTEST MOST POWERFUL MINI EVER MADE, hands down no contest! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:thumbsup: Forgot to mention they hold multiple track record in Nevada and California in their coopers also.. :wink:

I'll support and back Dez any day of the week. The exhaust sounds good, my MCS runs good with it, and I'm happy with what I paid for.. I guess it is what it is.

Ohh and I dont know if anyone has seen this information :grin:

::ABF Tech Division::

This is Dez Ballard's race MINI that he drives in the RedLine Time Attack Series. This custom built 1.6L engine puts out about 800hp at the crank, about 650 to the wheel on the stock MINI Cooper R53 engine...kinda.
Here are the current list of modifications on this MINI:
Engine

• 1k Injectors
• 10:1 Compression
• GT2871
• GT35R 10's
• Wiggins Clamps
• Garrett Intercooler
• PWR Radiatior
• Electric Water Cooling
• Fuel System
• Motec M4 ECU

Suspension

• Eibach Springs
• Eibach Sway Bars
• Sachs 4-way
• Camber Plates

Drivetrain

• Stock Transmission
• OS Giken Racing Clutch
• OS Giken Differential

Safety

• Halon Fire Suppression
• Full Roll Cage
• Nascar Bars
• Mini Challenge Brakes
• Carbon Fiber Body
• Lexan Windows

Tires

• 225/17

Track Records

• Autoclub Speedway, Fontana, CA 1:51
• WIllow Springs Raceway (Big Willow), Rosamond, CA 1:27.7
• WIllow Springs Raceway (Streets of Willow), Rosamond, CA 1:24.103
• Las Vegas Motor Speedway, Las Vegas, CA 1:52
• Infenion Raceway: Track record coming soon!

Yep, a $600 exhaust for $1500 :thumbsup:

Hmmm, fastest in terms of what....? What's their time around Buttonwillow again? Didn't it just get shatter'd by a street MINI??

But I wonder if they know who the "B" is in the original ABF...?

Make sure you support him in his other profession too :nod: :thumbsup:

:grin::grin::grin:

I didn't realize those were initials but now that I do, I know who the B & F were. Who was the A?

As much as I would love to talk about this, and it is very tempting, lets remember what this thread is about and try not to go of topic too much please.

Fastest in terms of "THE FASTEST" :lol: AND THE MOST POWERFUL :)

Sorry man :thumbsup:

Gotta fund the race team/race car somehow! How better than with shiny metal! Surely such a successful racer would have tested this exhuast extensively on a dyno and have the results? A sound clip would be great as well.

I like you Mflossin :lol:

The question I have is simple:

Do you want to buy an exhaust (or parts) from

a> someone who never raced/tracked and did all their testing on the street and dyno
b> someone who lives at the track, tests there and does not have a dyno

Both

So you have a problem with how a business decides to spend their own money? And I guess they could have made it out of regular steel that way you get that nice red color after awhile :roll:

Good thing I crawl underneath my car all the time to look at my exhaust...

Yea this is what I want to buy...not!

http://www.theexitwound.com/cutenews...s/muffler1.jpg

I don't know what kind of cheap material you all are used too.. but I've never had that issue on my car. Besides, I get mine custom made; purpose built... not a show car.

Dude, you need to get a better exhaust. There are plenty others out there if you can't afford the ABF. Do something soon. That is a death trap not to mention embarrasing to the MINI community!

:lol: Do you think that's my car :eek: That's not a Mini.

"you all" Do you mean the 95,000 members here on NAM? "but I've never had that issue on my car" So do you have some kind of non rusting steel that we all don't know about?, or do you use SS too? Most people don't have the time or the resources to have a complete "custom made" parts, plus most Mini parts are somewhat custom made as the market is so small it warrants it.

"You all" applies to whoever, well, it applies too. I paint mine to protect it, I don't need flashy shinny stuff to produce power. And I have a second exhaust as a back-up, made of Ti :wink: so that one is non rusting and not steel.

Pics? Id love to see your custom TI exhaust:thumbsup:

The Ti isn't custom, I wish. But I'll take pics once I pull it out of the box. It's currently still in the box and in storage.

This is what it looks like and who it's made by.

http://www.lite-spec.com/images/sti/stitione-3.jpg

For a Mini? Why is it your back up and not your main exhaust:sly: ?