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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Anybody have any clips from the interior with an Alta exhaust installed (with and without down-pipe)? I'm in the opposite situation as the OP. I don't want anything too loud, but I'm looking for mods to increase power. Just the exhaust sounds pretty mild, but with the down-pipe, it might be too loud for my taste. I'm really not that concerned about outside noise, it's inside noise that I'm worried about.
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Then click on videos. One on top is cat-back only. The link at the bottom to YouTube is DP + Cat-Back. I think you will be VERY pleased with the ALTA Cat-Back. Very mellow unless you add the DP. Hope that helps!
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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I placed an order through one of Alta's dealers. He was told it would ship last Friday. He was not notified and called today to get the tracking. He was informed the exhaust never shipped. Alta's response was they are on back order until late March. What a joke, I almost expected this from Alta. You only sell 10-15 products for the R56 and the exhaust is the most popular. I would call Alta and voice my concern but I feel it would be a total waist of time based on a few people I have spoken with. If one of their dealers does not get a explanation why should a customer.

ALTA WILL BE OUT OF STOCK ON EXHAUST SYSTEMS ALL MONTH
WOW! What a post!

Hey I understand your frustration as well. Trust me! I don't make money if I don't have parts.

But to say that it is a joke that we are out of parts isn't fair or in my opinion even rational. We had a VERY successful local event last week (On Saturday) and we simply sold more than we expected. Like a LOT more. Plus we had a few retail and dealer order both US and international and we got wiped out. I even sold the system for my personal R56 to help a client out.

We give very honest and accurate answers both to clients as well as dealers. So I don't understand again the balance of your last few sentences.

We won't rush production to sacrifice quality, but every effort is being made to get these done a quickly as possible. Also, not knowing WHERE or WHOM you ordered it from makes it difficult for me to investigate. I would say that there are some ALTA authorized dealers that may have systems either in transit to them or on the shelf. If you want to e-mail me at adam.taft@altaminiperformance.com I can gladly look into it for you.

Again, your business is appreciated, but I don't feel your reply above is either professional or cordial. I am VERY good about helping ALL members of NAM and the community. Take no offense. I TRULY want to help if I can!
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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My last post on the subject

The point is you can't help and here is why.

The dealer called before the event and checked to see if it was in stock. (The answer from Alta was yes). The reason I had him call is because I live 1.5 hours away and needed to schedule a day off for the install. The authorized dealer placed the order and Alta said it would ship Friday (Before the weekend event).

The problem is you used the exhaust I had already ordered for your event. I now have to do this all over again and hope I can get another day off to get this done. Just a professional tip, If one of your dealers has an order in you should notify him if you sell his order over the weekend. ( He should not have to call to find this out last minute). If he was notified right away maybe I could have re-scheduled my day off.


That is bad customer service no excuses end of story. If you don't admit to that then you are just continuing your behavior.

For the record. My dealer received professional courtesy from me and I told him I understood these things happen and my total complaint time with him was under 10 seconds. He did what he could with a bad situation.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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Well with the way you've handled and started the situation, you were shooting for dissapointment. You scheduled a day off of work without the dealer having the part. What if it did ship friday, and UPS did not get it in time to them for your ''scheduled day off''. Then instead of B****ing and moaning at Alta, you would have done it to someone else.

I honestly don't agree with you in regards to the bad customer service claim. I've ordered now 2 things from Alta. I think I asked Adam about 40 different ?'s and sent him numerous PM's in regards to his products before my sale. All were answered promptly and with great responses and great turnaround time. I went ahead and purchased an ECU. (same great treatment and communication).

I also don't understand why with you roaming and posting all over the forum,
knowing they have backorders (ie. ECU, coming shortly ) would be surprised that another product was as well.

And lastly, WAIST is the central part of an object. WASTE would be to employ uselessly. WASTE is the word of the day.

So now back onto the Alta exhaust? Any other clips?
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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The post above was suppossed to be with my username. A certain someone forgot to log out.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Derosi
The point is you can't help and here is why.

The dealer called before the event and checked to see if it was in stock. (The answer from Alta was yes). The reason I had him call is because I live 1.5 hours away and needed to schedule a day off for the install. The authorized dealer placed the order and Alta said it would ship Friday (Before the weekend event).

The problem is you used the exhaust I had already ordered for your event. I now have to do this all over again and hope I can get another day off to get this done. Just a professional tip, If one of your dealers has an order in you should notify him if you sell his order over the weekend. ( He should not have to call to find this out last minute). If he was notified right away maybe I could have re-scheduled my day off.


That is bad customer service no excuses end of story. If you don't admit to that then you are just continuing your behavior.

For the record. My dealer received professional courtesy from me and I told him I understood these things happen and my total complaint time with him was under 10 seconds. He did what he could with a bad situation.
i dont have anything against alta... but i really think the magnaflow sounds WAYYY better than the alta. And its less than half the price if you are going to pay someone to insall the alta.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Derosi
...That is bad customer service no excuses end of story. If you don't admit to that then you are just continuing your behavior. ...
wow, talk about being a dink, maybe your dealer told you it was on backorder because he didn't want to deal with you.

My sales rep. at Alta said they're expecting more sometime next week.
As a general life lesson, try the reasonable approach first if you want others to treat you in a reasonable manner. and duplicate posting the same rant all over the forum is really lame.

for comparison, my Eibach springs have been on backorder from tirerack for 2+ months, there's just not a whole lot you can do to rush manufacturing times.
 
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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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would there be any benefit in running 3 inch piping if im keeping all the cats in place? I want to swing by a muffler shop to get a quote.

If theres no benefit in the 3 inch piping then i will just go with 2.5 since the mufflers are cheaper at that size...
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 06:23 AM
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I would think the only difference would be a bit more sound. As far as power, from the cats back I don't see why there woudl be such big difference.

Are you planning on adding a resonator in there? or just straight back from the cats?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ADAMSALTAMINI
Check out our website CLICK HERE

Then click on videos. One on top is cat-back only. The link at the bottom to YouTube is DP + Cat-Back. I think you will be VERY pleased with the ALTA Cat-Back. Very mellow unless you add the DP. Hope that helps!
I know the Alta sounds good from the outside, but do you happen to have any clips from the inside? That's really what I'm concerned about. I don't want the drone on the highway and don't want my exhaust to keep me from using my hands free via the in-car bluetooth.
 

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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lxjose9xl
I would think the only difference would be a bit more sound. As far as power, from the cats back I don't see why there woudl be such big difference.

Are you planning on adding a resonator in there? or just straight back from the cats?
well im leaning toward no resonator... i want it mean sounding!! i will ask the muffler shop what they think though.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 08DSMCS
I know the Alta sounds good from the outside, but do you happen to have any clips from the inside. That's really what I'm concerned about. I don't want the drone on the highway and don't want my exhaust to keep me from using my hands free via the in-car bluetooth.
Hey man this is how quiet it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q_LzDkY2kA
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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well im leaning toward no resonator... i want it mean sounding!! i will ask the muffler shop what they think though.
Cali is pretty tough on that emission stuff!!!! Ask before you cut that Shizz
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by matty125
Hey man this is how quiet it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q_LzDkY2kA
Is that with the cat-back AND the downpipe, or cat-back only?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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First thank you ALL for the support!

I don't have all the details on the issue above, but we obviously would NEVER intentionally hurt anyone, short and order etc. we just can't do business that way and expect to succeed. There will always be occasions where we make boo boos. MY apologies if this is one of them.



Originally Posted by ghosthound
would there be any benefit in running 3 inch piping if im keeping all the cats in place? I want to swing by a muffler shop to get a quote.

If theres no benefit in the 3 inch piping then i will just go with 2.5 since the mufflers are cheaper at that size...
DO THE 3"! Turbo's REALLY respond well to an exhaust funnel leading away from the turbo. So getting is bigger and bigger will net the least amount of backpressure and increase HP.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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well im leaning toward no resonator... i want it mean sounding!! i will ask the muffler shop what they think though.
no resonator will definitely help sharpen the sound, but you'll greatly increase the drone inside the cabin.

Go 3" if you want to make a bit more power, it might cost a bit more now, but if you eventually decide to go with a bigger/better downpipe, you won't have to do the cat-back portion again.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2008 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 08DSMCS
Is that with the cat-back AND the downpipe, or cat-back only?
CAtback, notice its only loud when your on it
 

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 12:45 AM
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what do you guys think of this tip?

 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:45 AM
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not for me, but that's just me
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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I don't usually like those. But on that quicksilver exhaust it is very similar and looks pretty good. I would just make sure that it would sit pretty close to the bumper and not come out too too much.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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what do you guys think of this tip?

if you had 2 of them right next to each other...verrry nice
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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if you had 2 of them right next to each other...verrry nice
Yeah I think two might be kool. Just be sure to place it far enough away from the bumper to prevent toasting!

Good luck on the choice and the results. Keep us posted ghosthound!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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if you had 2 of them right next to each other...verrry nice
haha, yeah of course there would be two of them Im still kind of torn about the look but the quicksilver exhaust does look nice.

Im worried about clearance with the bumper though. I'll let you guys know what i end up going with.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ghosthound
would there be any benefit in running 3 inch piping if im keeping all the cats in place? I want to swing by a muffler shop to get a quote.

If theres no benefit in the 3 inch piping then i will just go with 2.5 since the mufflers are cheaper at that size...
There is no reason to go with a 3" exhaust on a turbocharged engine putting out less than 400-500 HP, except for size bragging rights.

When I decided to get a custom exhaust for my R56, I was insisting that it had to be 3". Fortunately, the guys designing it were nice enough to take the time to explain the finer points of turbo exhaust systems, and gave me enough info to be able to hit the internet and do a bit of research on my own.

Their belief was that 2.5" would be the optimal size, in terms of performance, weight, sound, and cost. They said the 3" would perform the same (perhaps a TINY bit worse), but cost and weight would go up, and the sound would lose some of its tone and become "muddy".

I'll have the car back this weekend, and will provide a sound clip. I met them at the dyno during the testing of the cat-back portion and the sound was fantastic. I'm hoping to meet them again tomorrow for the full turbo-back testing at the dyno.

Please don't take my word for it about sizing! Search the net for books and articles about sizing exhaust systems on turbocharged vehicles. Make your own decision based on what you want, but do it with as much information at hand as possible.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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You can go either way on this. There are lots of articles, test and theories that support both sides of the argument.

While a 3" system is not necessary at stock boost levels. If you are plannin any types of upgrades. You will have gains.

Check this old article. http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/01...ust/index.html

Again, we can argue this back and forth. The question becomes, does this higher price support the small gains. If the answer is yes, then get it
 
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