jeff has been back from hawaii for a couple of weeks.

 

Thanks! I'll be sure to get pictures of the cat-back up tomorrow and the springs whenever I'm able to get them installed (hopefully Monday, if not sometime mid-week).

The drop with Eibach springs is ~1.2". I like it because IMO a 1" drop would be perfect, so they get me as close to that as possible without a full coilover setup. H&Rs are too low for my wheel/tire setup (215/45/17 - larger diameter than stock), also the roads in my area are far from the best. Only other option is the Mach V's, but they aren't optimal with the stock suspension.

 

Man, I'm sorry someone peed in your cornflakes this mornin'............. maybe you need another point of perception. It's just a freaking game! All the kids want one, especially to be the first one one the block to have one! Most of us enjoy tinkering with our MINIs, and its another excuse to do so. And we're taking part in the development, and also learning about our MINIs and how they work. Sharing ideas and conversation, being able to be sympathetic towards Scott, when his wouldn't work, also when Snkbte's got lost by FEDEX. We're rooting for the guys having problems, to see who gets theirs going so we can get more tales of the awesome torque. We are secretly rooting for unsalada, in spite of his comical posts, who is just naiive. Once the bugs get worked out with the harnesses and such, it will be ho-hum, and cease to be as exciting. Its riveting. I have to see what's happening with this thread more than several times a day. It's just a freaking game! And its fun!

ALTA is not driving this thread, its the moment! Most of us are caught up in it, including Adam. You shouldn't blame him, he is just capitalizing on the moment, that's what saavy business people do. This moment won't come again. I'm glad to be part of it.

 

Nicely said

 

++1, move on.

 

Like I said before these are not required products for our cars. I love the performance I got from my ALTA ECU and I was willing to take a risk and be one of the first to install never mind one of the first to hardwire it in. I know they have done lots of testing but this is still a pretty new product and may have a few problems to iron out. With that being said. I have had ZERO problems with my hardwire unit.

 

I did a baseline "completely stock" dyno pull at Mac Auto Sports in Parker, CO and got the following numbers:

199 Max Hp
236 Max Torque


These are SAE corrected numbers at roughly 5900 ft altitude so they won't compare directly to other sealevel cars, but should be spot on for your car if you dyno it at MAC Autosport.

 

OHHHHH YOUR AWESOME!
Thanks I'll defiantly use that as a baseline idea. Obviously temp different car etc will produce different results, however I'm just trying to get an idea, not an exact measurement.

 

what were the un"corrected" figures at the wheels? that is what everyone else is reporting.

 

THANK YOU! I appreciate it! I try to be the least self-serving as possible. If I was then I would take the time to participate and help out. PLUS I LOVE THIS STUFF!!!!!

 

What altitude are you at?

 

go alta! nicely said guys. im having problems with mine but i thought it would happen , alta will fix it, no big deal. fedex came to my house and picked up my return , thats great i didnt have to go somewhere and pay to ship it back. also alta will ship it back to me and it will be a winner. just hope the fed wont lose my return. alta has been workin hard to give us what we want, more power and performance. thank you alta.

 

Uncorrected:

163 HP
193 TQ


However, these uncorrected numbers are not a true HP/TQ representation due to the altitude (a small amount of turbo charger efficency is lost at altitude). They will not compare directly to other uncorrected numbers at sealevel. For a turbo charged engine we need a correction factor in between SAE and and uncorrected at this altitude. The problem is, even if we had that correction factor it would still be dynamic in nature to some degree.

The big picture clearly shows that the common sealevel numbers (SAE or Uncorrected, doesn't matter at sealevel because no correction is needed for altitude) from the R56 are roughly:

170 HP
200 TQ

If I took my car to sealevel it would be very close to 170/200.

Anyway, the point being, my SAE numbers numbers are a great reference point for those dynoing their cars at MAC Autosport at 5900 ft. MAC uses SAE as a defualt to keep numbers consistent.

Cheers.

 

the small correction for altitude is better than some big guesstimate for at the crank. That's why everyone is quoting at the wheels. your first post showed stock numbers very close to my numbers with my mods. it raises eyebrows if you try quoting crank numbers and everyone else is quoting at the wheels.

 

Those original posted numbers are SAE corrected "at wheel quotes", not crank. Again, they only apply to us high altitude guys like 4Azdmunky to whom the post was directed. Mac Autosport uses SAE by default. So for consistent comparison we use it too.

In a nutshell, posting SAE is too high and posting uncorrected is too low. Our high altitude cars fall somewhere in the middle. You just can't compare directly.

I know they look awesome but they are really in line with the other cars if we were at sealevel ( i.e. 170/200).

Anyway, should be helpful for 4Azdmunky, otherwise he would have thought he would have gained 60+hp with the Alta ECU without an initial baseline...

 

weird question, but does anyone have the ECU with the stock runflat tires? I'm contemplating the ECU, but im not sure whether having those crappy tires will cancel out the extra power with excessive wheelspin?

 

ECU with stock run flats here
(and Alta CAI, inlet tube and turboback)
car has DSC and LSD

I only noticed a bit of wheel slip with full acceleration on damp roads. But I don't track or race the car.

 

So I installed my PnP ECU. Seems like my mileage is better on the highway but suffers greatly during spirited driving. All the way down to 9.6 avg mpg! But I can spin the tires in third gear exiting the slow corners. Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuClcBXCjCo

There was one car out there that was even cooler than my Mini.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moYQth1yJvY

 

9.6. Wow! What other mods are on your car? Yeah I have to give that guy credit. The Enzo is just a tad cooler than the mini

 

Alta Cat-Back & homemade intake using a K&N filter.

It took several laps to drag the mpg down that low. YMMV

 

NICE! Glad things are working well. The wait is SO worth it for people I SWEAR!

Hey folks. Semi off topic but can I get some addl input from you folks in this thread? CLICK HERE

Thanks again!

 

If running the Alta PnP ECU and an OBDII gauge (like the DashDaq for example) will the information displayed on the gauge be accurate? Or will it be inaccurate due to how the PnP ECU functions regarding sensor signals, inputs, etc?

 

Hi Adam
Sorry, started a new job and havent had time to check back in. I'm in Denver 5280 ft.

I'm expecting to not get what everyone at sealevel gets for HP/Torque. I tested my Vibe in december, I was pulling 146 when others at sea level are pulling 170.
However, I started modding the mini 3 days after i bought it,...hence..no baseline.

 

Heck yea!
I learned that the hard way with my Vibe (see response to Adam above). Really what I would like to know with my dyno is what I'm currently running at. It would be nice to know how much was gained, but poor planning took that option away . That and it gives me something to talk about if I can ever make it to the mini5280 meetings........

 

I am curious about this as well.