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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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M7 ram air intake or Alta intercooler air diverter

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I want to get one of this mods, but dont know which one.
Which one works better?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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the ram scoop definitely looks a whole lot better
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 02:38 AM
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^^^ if you have a DFIC right? because i was under the impression that having a bigger scoop with the stock diverter/IC would be money down the drain
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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Get both!
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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Ive seen this pics but I dont know which is the ram air intake, If I change the hood scoop Ill like to get the smaller one, I dont want my car to look too agressive.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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The one on the left is Ram, the one on the right is Extreme
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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The one on the left is Ram, the one on the right is Extreme
And does the ram looks almost like the OEM or does it has a little spoiler like the extreme one?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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I have the extreme and the alta diverter and I think the combo is great. The problem is, seeing any gains at all. Personally I think that I do see some BIG gains from the combo, but there really isnt any way to prove them both.

The diverter can be proved on a dyno, but the scoop is a different story. When I go to the track I put ice into my washer resivour to drop the water temp even more then just water. (I found some sweet bottle shaped ice trays that fit right down the fill spout)

When you get your car out on the road and moving at some good speeds I think the scoop really shows its benifits. lately I have been reading a lot about IC's and their draw backs. The combo makes sense to me cause you can defeat the biggest problems with the stock IC. ie: heatsoak (spray that baby at a stop), etc....

and you wont see the downsides from the "upgraded" IC's. ie: heatsoak, recovery time, fitment issues, COSTS!!!, etc......
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mini_macky
^^^ if you have a DFIC right? because i was under the impression that having a bigger scoop with the stock diverter/IC would be money down the drain
Not sure if you mean me, or the OP but I have the alta intercooler (v1) + the ram scoop.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by omnivector
Not sure if you mean me, or the OP but I have the alta intercooler (v1) + the ram scoop.

Im looking for something which looks like the first pic, If the ram intake looks like the second one, Ill probably get the air diverter. I want to keep my OEM appearance.
Is yours the Ram or the Extreme?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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From my experience, much of which is documented here on NAM, including mutliple temperature measurements and reports, there are measurable gains in efficiency, lower approach and recovery from using the Alta diverter (which can be modified for improved performance) and the Ram intake scoop. The scoop works regardless of which IC you have, and the Alta diverter can be modified to fit all TMICs.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
From my experience, much of which is documented here on NAM, including mutliple temperature measurements and reports, there are measurable gains in efficiency, lower approach and recovery from using the Alta diverter (which can be modified for improved performance) and the Ram intake scoop. The scoop works regardless of which IC you have, and the Alta diverter can be modified to fit all TMICs.

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I have the OEM IC.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by raul
Im looking for something which looks like the first pic, If the ram intake looks like the second one, Ill probably get the air diverter. I want to keep my OEM appearance.
Is yours the Ram or the Extreme?
Mine is the Ram scoop (same as the second picture). See here for more photos. I wouldn't fret it much in terms of not being OEM. What's the point of modding your car if you want it to completely look OEM? It's a good looks/performance mod for low cost. That's just my 2c
 

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by omnivector
Mine is the Ram scoop (same as the second picture). See here for more photos. I wouldn't fret it much in terms of not being OEM. What's the point of modding your car if you want it to completely look OEM? It's a good looks/performance mod for low cost. That's just my 2c
Nice pics you have there . What track is that?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:06 PM
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Realistically, you will not notice any gains from these mods. Have you done a pulley?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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I am planning on geting it. Check this thread https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=114613

Suggestions are welcomed.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 08:33 AM
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I've got the m7 ram air scoop and the alta diverter. Excellent combo. I can go out and beat the heck out of my car and one side of the intercooler will be too hot to touch and the otherside will be as cool as if hte car had been sitting over night.

Also it recovers from heatsoak near immediatly. Well... i mean the heatsoak that you get in stop and go... of course it won't fight the terminal heatsoak that a tmic car will get.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Nice pics you have there . What track is that?
Thunderhill! Going for another track meetup on nov 1st (hooked on minis)
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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who makes this scoop?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Actually that photo is informative in a number of ways. It's an M7 Ram, with the stock IC diverter. You can see how much of the incoming air is "wasted" against the front of the diverter. That's why you need the Alta, but it must be modified, or you can fab-up your own diverter. It's just metalwork 101, not too hard.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
Actually that photo is informative in a number of ways. It's an M7 Ram, with the stock IC diverter. You can see how much of the incoming air is "wasted" against the front of the diverter. That's why you need the Alta, but it must be modified, or you can fab-up your own diverter. It's just metalwork 101, not too hard.
I know you have alot of posts on this, but do you have any links as to where you modified yours. Iv'e been looking at mine wondering what to do. Thanks for any help .
 
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