what....... by your ability to not answer Shawn with any fact based replies?

you can say what you want but you DON'T have the ability to correctly calculate the conditions on the track to performance gains with the equipment you have.... END OF STORY

 

Not end of story I'm afraid, the fact is I have proven and shown documented independent eveidence of all 1/4 mph & Et on the same day showing that horsepower = mph / weight

YOU have proven nothing

 

care to show your accelerometer readings then?

 

that would mean I have 110 hp depressing

 

Not on those runs but I believe we have Bens, so what wrong with a time ticket now then?

 

Sorry I dont understand why you have 110hp?

 

nothing is wrong with a ticket but to say it's the ONLY way to do it is wrong, it was proved to you above or don't you understand what Shawn was telling you?

 

I perfectly understand some of what Shawn was telling me, some of it I agree with some of it I dont.

Just like you believe the supercharged way is the right way to go and other will believe that the turbo route is the way to go.

The only way to tell is by proving it at a track, you can have all the trq and horsepower in the world but if you cant manage it then you might as well not have it.

Dyno numbers are just that numbers, there good for deltas, testing and pointing you in the right direction, but the track is King.

I cant wait for someone to move the 105.8 mph goal post so we can go chasing again.

At the moment we want to get nearer Lee's 1.23s on Toyo 888 at Donny

 

Paul
Who is tuning your cars and what are they or you using?

 

its a cooper and by your formula I have 110 hp

 

It's obvious you don't understand ALL of it or you still wouldn't be here arguing over it

Exactly... dyno numbers are dyno numbers but its all relative. We have tested every header out there and none make the same tq as ours. The dynapack takes all of the variables that skew numbers out of it. It's the delta......period

No one cares about the drag racing outside of 5 people on this board

and for the supercharged comment.... time will tell.......

 

So what did the Janspeed header make?

What improvement did you see with each one at the track?

 

The best I saw out of it at our dyno was 235whp and 189tq

 

Kewl, have you got a comparison dyno shot of your shorty and the janspeed on the same car.

When you say "our dyno" does that mean you've finally bought one?

 

nope... only tuned it
I have seen numerous cars with 1.5" exhaust primaries and every one of them had lower torque
why would all of the dyno's across the country say the same story?

conspiracy?

coincidence?

still waiting for you to figure out how a car that has 199whp on a dynapack go 13.8 and you say 250bhp and another with our head/header combo make 253whp and not be over 300bhp by your calcs

 

Unless you do back to back on the same car on the same daytests it would be arrogant and foolish to say one is better than the other.

so the 253hp has been down a dragstrip then, what did it run?

 

what's foolish is trying to calculate the bhp without the proper equipment

 

So the 253hp with the dodgy trq reading hasn't been to the dragstrip?

Why was the trq reading like that Jan?

 

Paul.... there is NO ONE LEFT ON YOUR SIDE, everyone else that had questions realise your system is inaccurate

I'm not going to go back and forth with you... Shawn has already shown you the error of your ways. If you want to keep hashing this out.... hash away with Shawn

 

ROFLMAO Its funny how you can never seem to answer direct questions, so there's only one reason for that;

you dont know the answers

 

I know the answer.... your track equations are flat out wrong....
ROFLMAO...........

everyone that even somewhat supported you are gone.... what does this tell you besides being pig headed about it?

 

there you go trying to avoid the questions again;

Why was the trq so low on that 253hp pull ? Even Shawn cant work it out

 

I'm stunned you can't figure out that all dyno's read different

is this too difficult for you to comprehend?

that car had the highest torque values of any car that was dyno'd there

 

So now you saying you cant compare dynos then, as they all read differently... I've never seen a formula like that one to create 180 ft lb be into 253hp, using the correct formula it works out to be 227hp more in line what they saw at Texas, but hey you were there not me and you have dyno'd 100s of Minis.

Gnaster proved when he visted 4 dynos over 2 days he saw 20hp difference so at 230whp that would be 9% difference.

So really we should take dyno numbers with a pinch of salt, unless you verify this at a race track.

Which we have done by having 2 cars take over the mph crown over the 1/4 mile at 105.8.

One of these cars has got within 2 secs off Lee's turbo car which in theory produced 391bhp on a dyno.

So now we have one turbo car that produces on a dyno 391bhp and goes 1.23s on Toyo 888 around Donny, then we have an M45 Mini which produces 255bhp and goes 1.25s around Donny on Parada spec 11, so 136bhp difference and 2 secs difference Lee 10yrs experience on that track, Jove secound track day first time on that track.

Now the same car has been up the Pod and run a best of 111 so in comparison working with our formula that would be around the 330bhp mark at 2700lbs (guestimate)

But which dyno is right? we know our dyno ties up with the mph / weight at the Pod.

Does the dyno results matter, not really its what the car runs at whatever track that matters.

Look at Bob at Button Willow, 2nd time out in the car and it goes 2.00 flat (but what head and cam did it have?) and he proberly still needs load of seat time to adapt himself to his new found power.

It'll be excellent to see what you'll get at Button Willow with the TVS, supercharged v turbo battling it out to see who has the ideal road race setup.

Exciting times for 09, who'll be first in the 12s and who'll be first in the 1.50s at Button Willow, I know what my money is on both and it aint you

Maybe you should have a footnote on your posts saying;

highest horsepower and torque on "insert company name" dynapack

please do not compare these numbers with any others

 

Wow Paul, you can spin this more ways than anyone can imagine. Points that were argued and put away pages ago come right back up again. Feels like Nitromini all over again . I'm too busy to go back and quote you contradicting yourself. It really is laughable.