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Old May 31, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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Since several of the complaints still occurred with the same foam applicator I supplied, then we can probably narrow this down to climate and rubbings.

I don't rub, so that may be a factor as well. I'll be posting a video clip soon on how I apply it.

Richard

Originally Posted by kenchan
im sure climate has some factor, but i think it's more in the type of
applicator pad and how many rubbings you do during the application.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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I'll be posting a video clip soon on how I apply it.

Richard
that sounds good. i think i need to use a brush or something
next time. lol
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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I thought you were supposed to put it on with your tougue...can't get this taste out of my mouth...but the sheen on my tougue is still holding up.
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by flingger
I thought you were supposed to put it on with your tougue...can't get this taste out of my mouth...but the sheen on my tougue is still holding up.
Atleast your tounge now smells like yummy gum (atleast thats what I think BW smells like)
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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im not sure if i want to watch OG's video now with the 'proper' application
with his tongue.



 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Since several of the complaints still occurred with the same foam applicator I supplied, then we can probably narrow this down to climate and rubbings.

I don't rub, so that may be a factor as well. I'll be posting a video clip soon on how I apply it.

Richard
It's not the environment. It's the rubbing. The harder and more I rubbed, the more static. That of course makes sense too...didn't you do that in middle school physics?
The hard rubbing was needed to really spread the product out. Areas where I did not do so (and didn't get any static) looked oily afterwards (and within a few days, dusty). The rubbing also helped remove the set in wax stains. I don't mind the static at all though..and I don't plan to be applying black wow at a gas station any time soon!
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jwardell
It's not the environment. It's the rubbing. The harder and more I rubbed, the more static. That of course makes sense too...didn't you do that in middle school physics?
Sounds kinda like a Back to the Future solo-erotic science experiment or something there, josh... what part of your body could you use to light up the little light bulb?

And was there a kite and a key involved in the next phase of the experiment?
 
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Old May 31, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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Actually I take back that "I don't rub"--I do rub but it's more like smoothing out rather than hard rubbing. LOL.

re: Gas Station
haha good point. LOL.

Originally Posted by jwardell
It's not the environment. It's the rubbing. The harder and more I rubbed, the more static. That of course makes sense too...didn't you do that in middle school physics?
The hard rubbing was needed to really spread the product out. Areas where I did not do so (and didn't get any static) looked oily afterwards (and within a few days, dusty). The rubbing also helped remove the set in wax stains. I don't mind the static at all though..and I don't plan to be applying black wow at a gas station any time soon!
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jwardell
I don't mind the static at all though..and I don't plan to be applying black wow at a gas station any time soon!
I agree - the static is just a strange part of the application... And since it appears it will rarely ever have to be applied (mine still looks great, it was applied in /march at AMVIV & gets weekly washings) I can't see where it'll make any difference in the long run.

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Hah thanks!!! Yeah I kind of expected that so I'm working on trying to get one bottle into the hands of every car owner!
Richard, you need to get to those Honda Element drivers - their vehicles are 1/2 plastic!
 
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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^^ not to forget all the Jeep buyers. should be a nice market for
such item. just gotta know how to sell.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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I finally stopped procrastinating and applied Epic with my PC yesterday. Bamatt will be proud. Thanks, Heather, for your advice. The Epic did a great job and was so easy to hand-buff off. Looks more luscious this morning after sitting overnight.

Richard, the BW has evened out and looks even better after washing. Also, I was so glad that I'd put BW on the trim earlier. Even though I taped off the edge of the trim before waxing, I still got a little Epic on the trim w/o tape. It wiped off w/o staining thanks to the BW. Miss Flo is really swanky today.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
The main reason I suggest using foam is simply that you don't want to use something absorbent that will hold too much product. First of all you don't need to use very much and second having an applicator that absorbs too much product will just waste it IMO.

Your finger works fine too! The foam that I use are the applicators you find for applying wax. The little round disc from Meguiar's for example.

Richard
Us old guys catch on eventually, thanks!
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Two more vehicles to add to the target market; Pontiac Aztek and 1st gen Chevy Avalanche.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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Oooh thanks!
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Two more vehicles to add to the target market; Pontiac Aztek and 1st gen Chevy Avalanche.
Heh heh no problem.
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Us old guys catch on eventually, thanks!
Great to hear! Glad it's working out well for you.

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Richard, the BW has evened out and looks even better after washing. Also, I was so glad that I'd put BW on the trim earlier. Even though I taped off the edge of the trim before waxing, I still got a little Epic on the trim w/o tape. It wiped off w/o staining thanks to the BW. Miss Flo is really swanky today.
Check out these pix. It's from a club run yesterday--saw one of my members cars had the OEM rack and I "thought" it was supposed to be black, so I asked Anthony about it.



He said the MINI lives outdoors..... so I asked if I could try some Black Wow to see if the black would come back, and here ya go!


I think we were all astonished by the results!

Also over the weekend I visited Scott at Central Coast Coopers to have my Detroit Tuned Bypass Valve installed and saw a customers Jet Black MCS there. It was owned by a father/son duo. I told the father I had something that would really make his car look great with minimal effort. So I asked the father what color the trim was on his sons MINI, he said "black". I replied "Really?? Do you mind if I try a little test?"

The trim before (I forgot to take a "before" pic, but the other side was in the same condition)


After


I actually left exposed only a section of the untreated trim--the lower part of the trim towards the skirt and towards the front bumper were treated with Black Wow. Both the fathers and son response was WOW! That looks great! The father remarked that he never realized the trim wasn't black anymore.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Heck - all I do when I meet a fellow MINI owner is tag them with a MINI5280 card.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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Real world results:

Applied BW a few weeks ago, and since it has been washed 4-5 times and endured a 6+ hour rain-soaked ride on 95 through the heart of Tropical Storm Barry... got home this past weekend & washed the MINI to observe BW still shining bright. An excellent product!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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OK after all my whining about "where is my BW"...
I just used it for the 1st time today

I'm impressed with it. I didn't have any trouble applying it, no unevenness. I used a Meguiar's round pad. I went over all the trim with a paper towel afterwards to remove any overapplication & try to avoid it attracting dirt as people had mentioned.

When going back with the paper towel I felt the hairs on my arm being pulled towards the trim really hard so I would echo the sentiments that BW does somehow cause static electricity which in turn does cause dirt & dust to be attracted to the trim. I had to run an errand & when I returned there were bits of fine dirt/dust on my trim. The static forcefield was broken by the time I got home though (I did the arm hair test & got no pulling ) There isn't much stuff on the trim but I am going to wipe it down in the AM & see if any more appears. I would think that if the trim is putting off static electricity the laws of physics would dictate that particles will be attracted to the trim. MBE the key is to not drive anywhere until the static dissipates. I think all the static was gone in under an hour but I dunno for sure as I didn't look at my watch
 

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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Hmm, looks like a job for the trusty old Zerostat!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Thanks for your feedback!
I experienced the "static" for the first time on a Chevy Silverado bumper. Solving the problem was as simple as spraying a little quick detailer on the trim as you wiped. Since BW isn't affected by water, it's a quick fix if the static is bothering you. Just spritz it onto the bumper as you apply the BW. As has been mentioned previously, the static will happen regardless of product, it's not a BW issue.

On this same truck, I noticed that each grill was black plastic. Check this out



Just treating two pieces (slat 4 and 5 from the top) it's easy to tell the dramatic improvement..it really brings out the chrome.



And all finished



Originally Posted by bamatt
OK after all my whining about "where is my BW"...
I just used it for the 1st time today

I'm impressed with it. I didn't have any trouble applying it, no unevenness. I used a Meguiar's round pad. I went over all the trim with a paper towel afterwards to remove any overapplication & try to avoid it attracting dirt as people had mentioned.

When going back with the paper towel I felt the hairs on my arm being pulled towards the trim really hard so I would echo the sentiments that BW does somehow cause static electricity which in turn does cause dirt & dust to be attracted to the trim. I had to run an errand & when I returned there were bits of fine dirt/dust on my trim. The static forcefield was broken by the time I got home though (I did the arm hair test & got no pulling ) There isn't much stuff on the trim but I am going to wipe it down in the AM & see if any more appears. I would think that if the trim is putting off static electricity the laws of physics would dictate that particles will be attracted to the trim. MBE the key is to not drive anywhere until the static dissipates. I think all the static was gone in under an hour but I dunno for sure as I didn't look at my watch
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Solving the problem was as simple as spraying a little quick detailer on the trim as you wiped. Since BW isn't affected by water, it's a quick fix if the static is bothering you. Just spritz it onto the bumper as you apply the BW.
hey, using QD with BW was my recommendation!

 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
...Solving the problem was as simple as spraying a little quick detailer on the trim as you wiped. Since BW isn't affected by water, it's a quick fix if the static is bothering you. Just spritz it onto the bumper as you apply the BW. As has been mentioned previously, the static will happen regardless of product, it's not a BW issue.
I am not ******* BW in any way but I never experienced static when I used 303 or Wizard's That said neither lasted long enough for me to be satisfied with them. If BW lasts long enough (1 day so far so good ) I am willing to try to deal with the static & particle attraction. OG, are you saying I can say semi rub BW in & immediately spray QD & continue my rub-in to kinda make it all one step?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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To dispell the static all I've had to do is instead of wiping off the excess with a dry paper towel, just use a wet paper towel - works perfectly! And ALL static is gone after the first wash, but the black just goes on, and on, and on.....
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by UsCoops
To dispell the static all I've had to do is instead of wiping off the excess with a dry paper towel, just use a wet paper towel - works perfectly! And ALL static is gone after the first wash, but the black just goes on, and on, and on.....
interesting interesting! must try next time.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Yeah, the static/dust issue goes away after the first wash...but like 4 washes later the BW keeps on going.

Worth the static on application, IMO. I liked my Wizard's but this stuff lasts longer.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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i just use my calduster over my BW'ed arches and looks prefectly clean.

was planning to paint them matte black this year, but forget it. no more need.
 
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