D Stock GS to DS?
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GS to DS?
I can't find anything official yet, so I started digging through the FastTracks. Only found two entries:
I'm not sure if that's the official announcement or if I've missed it. But it looks like we're moving. Anybody else know anything?
May 2009 FastTrack
RECOMMENDED TO THE B.O.D.
ITEM 1) Move the Mini Cooper S from GS to DS.
RECOMMENDED TO THE B.O.D.
ITEM 1) Move the Mini Cooper S from GS to DS.
July 2009 FastTrack
Stock: The following new listings, effective immediately upon publication, are added to Appendix A:
Audi R8 4.2L (’08-’09) SS (ref. 09-207)
Tesla Roadster (all) (’08-’09) SS (ref. 09-273)
MINI John Cooper Works Clubman (’09) BS
(Note: It is the SEB’s intent that the MINI Clubman models be classed alongside the corresponding MINI Cooper models.
When the Cooper S moves from GS to DS in 2010, the Clubman S will also move to DS)
Stock: The following new listings, effective immediately upon publication, are added to Appendix A:
Audi R8 4.2L (’08-’09) SS (ref. 09-207)
Tesla Roadster (all) (’08-’09) SS (ref. 09-273)
MINI John Cooper Works Clubman (’09) BS
(Note: It is the SEB’s intent that the MINI Clubman models be classed alongside the corresponding MINI Cooper models.
When the Cooper S moves from GS to DS in 2010, the Clubman S will also move to DS)
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As I understand it, per the SCCAforums site and SCCA, the rule change has been sent to the Board Of Directors as being approved by the Solo Events Board. Unless there is an extreme amount of last-minute dissent, it will be approved. Look for the formal announcement in the October or November FastTrack.
Also, the JCW (gen II) will remain in what is now BS - which appears to be called CS next year with the SS (most cars) to AS, AS to BS, and the combination of BS/CS. Gen I JCW should remain in DSP.
So, the competition in DS for next year looks like Cobalt SS, MazdaSpeed3, Integras, TTs, and the occasional 1-Series. Not bad competition in my opinion, and there doesn't appear to be a for-sure favorite car in the group like there is today in some of the other stock categories (including GS), and the S should still be pretty competitive.
Also, the JCW (gen II) will remain in what is now BS - which appears to be called CS next year with the SS (most cars) to AS, AS to BS, and the combination of BS/CS. Gen I JCW should remain in DSP.
So, the competition in DS for next year looks like Cobalt SS, MazdaSpeed3, Integras, TTs, and the occasional 1-Series. Not bad competition in my opinion, and there doesn't appear to be a for-sure favorite car in the group like there is today in some of the other stock categories (including GS), and the S should still be pretty competitive.
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I know my WRX was in DS. Are they not much of a force? I know I had a heck of a time getting mine to turn, but it was completely 100% bone stock. I didn't know if doing some of the few things that you can do in the stock category would make much of a difference on those cars.
With cars like the Cobalt SS, MazdaSpeed3, etc; that looks to be some stiff competition.
With cars like the Cobalt SS, MazdaSpeed3, etc; that looks to be some stiff competition.
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Yea, the top GS Minis were faster than the top DS cars. I was just thinking along the lines of DWatkins; they just moved the SRT4 into GS as our main competition, so why move us now. But I guess it makes sense over all. Here locally, we have a VW R32 that comes out in DS and it's hard to catch him.
Last edited by L8Apex; 09-03-2009 at 01:28 PM.
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However, with that said. The 2009 Mini Cooper S has some advatages over the 07-08 or 05-06 S. There is a PORT INSTALLED JCW ecu upgrade option for the Mini Cooper S that is legal for GS/DS usage. This will be the best Mini available for SCCA Solo competition since the 2010 S will have the crappy electronic LSD. Also, with the 2009, you can left foot brake without throttle cut off. If I was ever going back to a Mini, this would be my choice for DS by a long shot.
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The one course definitely had several sweepers. I think with Lincoln Air Park being so huge that every National Championship is going to have a very good dose of sweepers. There have been years where the Mini has beaten the Type R though so maybe 2010 will be different? Either that, or, maybe the Mini Cooper Coupe Concept will materialize here in the US as a 2010 model. If so, if it has a real LSD I think it would be instantly competitive in DS since it would be so much lighter than the R56(I assume 200 pounds or so?). Anyway, I still love Mini's so u can't go wrong either way.
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Do tell! Can you point me someplace for more details? I'm waiting for my 2010 to arrive at Port Huenme (got it w/ the mechanical diff, BTW), so it's probably too late for me to have them add it on, but maybe it can be installed at the dealership.
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