Anyone running 215/55-17 or 225/50-17 on stock 17" rims?
#52
Anyone running 215/55-17 or 225/50-17 on stock 17" rims?
i am running 225/50R18 michelin pilot super sports on my all4
i determined tire pressure using a tire pyrometer (thermometer) and ended up at 42 psi front 37 psi rear ... after 11,000 miles (with rotation every 4,000 miles) all 4 tires are evenly worn across the tread and all 4 tires are worn down the same amount
i did the same with the oem 225/45R18 pirelli p7 summer runflats and ended up at 42 psi front 36 psi rear
the mini recommended pressures are too low
i determined tire pressure using a tire pyrometer (thermometer) and ended up at 42 psi front 37 psi rear ... after 11,000 miles (with rotation every 4,000 miles) all 4 tires are evenly worn across the tread and all 4 tires are worn down the same amount
i did the same with the oem 225/45R18 pirelli p7 summer runflats and ended up at 42 psi front 36 psi rear
the mini recommended pressures are too low
#53
#54
Wow!
You guys all run higher pressures in the front?
I actually run 2-3 lbs lower in the front. I find it makes for less understeer.
I do have a 2wd sport, standard shift and I drove Auto X to find my ideal pressures, but if any of you suffer under-steer, try adjusting those pressures.
I'm currently running 37.5 rear 35 front cold and it's perfect.
Having the pressure exact is key, so invest in a good pressure gauge.
You guys all run higher pressures in the front?
I actually run 2-3 lbs lower in the front. I find it makes for less understeer.
I do have a 2wd sport, standard shift and I drove Auto X to find my ideal pressures, but if any of you suffer under-steer, try adjusting those pressures.
I'm currently running 37.5 rear 35 front cold and it's perfect.
Having the pressure exact is key, so invest in a good pressure gauge.
#56
Non-RF Tire Success
First I would like to thank all the great info I picked up on the various threads with regard to changing from RF to non-RF tires on my 2013 Countryman S. I dropped the stock Conmtinental RF's at 30k and put on 225/50/17 Continental Extreme Contact DWS06 tires. As many of you reported there are no tire rub issues. The ride, noise and road feel is INCREDIBLY BETTER. Like many said, it changes the whole driving experience for the better. Wish I would have done this from Day One. I would recommend anybody to do it. All the forum info helped me make a confident correct decision. Thank you all
#58
Old thread, but felt this was worth contributing:
https://blog.tirerack.com/blog/hunte...r-countryman-s
Per the above link - "Tire Rack provides fitment guarantee on this size to be inside the wheelwell without rubbing."
Still, I would check dimensions before ordering... Some tires listed as 225/50-17 are considerably wider than others, and there is even some diameter variance I noted... as is the case with the CINTURATO P7 ALL SEASON PLUS (non-run flat) which comes in at 26.1" diameter, and very wide.
I ended up ordering ALTIMAX RT43 (V-SPEED RATED) 225/50R17
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...RT43&tab=Sizes
Looking forward to non-RF tires! Sport suspension plus P7 run-flats is way too harsh!
--- research notes: ---
RIM WIDTH RNG,___RIM WIDTH,__SECT. WIDTH,__TREAD WIDTH,__OVERALL DIAM.
(OEM) INTURATO P7 ALL SEASON RUN FLAT - SIZE: 205/55R17
5.5-7.5",___6.5",____8.5",_____6.7",____25.9"
CINTURATO P7 ALL SEASON PLUS - SIZE: 225/50R17
6-8",_______7",_____9.4",_____8.2",____26.1"
ALTIMAX RT43 (H- OR V-SPEED RATED) - SIZE: 225/50R17
6-8",_______7",_____9.2",_____7.5",____25.9"
Non-RF notes:
For me, carrying plugs and a compressor, plus having USAA roadside is enough peace of mind.
However, I did also consider this compact spare, which fits under the trunk board- very cool!:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...1-22-12-a.html
https://blog.tirerack.com/blog/hunte...r-countryman-s
Per the above link - "Tire Rack provides fitment guarantee on this size to be inside the wheelwell without rubbing."
Still, I would check dimensions before ordering... Some tires listed as 225/50-17 are considerably wider than others, and there is even some diameter variance I noted... as is the case with the CINTURATO P7 ALL SEASON PLUS (non-run flat) which comes in at 26.1" diameter, and very wide.
I ended up ordering ALTIMAX RT43 (V-SPEED RATED) 225/50R17
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...RT43&tab=Sizes
Looking forward to non-RF tires! Sport suspension plus P7 run-flats is way too harsh!
--- research notes: ---
RIM WIDTH RNG,___RIM WIDTH,__SECT. WIDTH,__TREAD WIDTH,__OVERALL DIAM.
(OEM) INTURATO P7 ALL SEASON RUN FLAT - SIZE: 205/55R17
5.5-7.5",___6.5",____8.5",_____6.7",____25.9"
CINTURATO P7 ALL SEASON PLUS - SIZE: 225/50R17
6-8",_______7",_____9.4",_____8.2",____26.1"
ALTIMAX RT43 (H- OR V-SPEED RATED) - SIZE: 225/50R17
6-8",_______7",_____9.2",_____7.5",____25.9"
Non-RF notes:
For me, carrying plugs and a compressor, plus having USAA roadside is enough peace of mind.
However, I did also consider this compact spare, which fits under the trunk board- very cool!:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...1-22-12-a.html
Last edited by SaveOne; 09-04-2017 at 12:50 PM.
#59
So for those whole are running the 225/50, how did the extra tire soften the ride and cornering? I am trying to decide between 225/50 or 225/55 but worried the 55s might add some squirm in the corners. I am on Conti RFs right now and need to swap tires before the snow falls as they are pretty worn. Small part of me wants the 55s because they will lower the revs a bit and I do a lot of 75-80mph highway driving. Let me know your thoughts, thanks!
#60
So for those whole are running the 225/50, how did the extra tire soften the ride and cornering? I am trying to decide between 225/50 or 225/55 but worried the 55s might add some squirm in the corners. I am on Conti RFs right now and need to swap tires before the snow falls as they are pretty worn. Small part of me wants the 55s because they will lower the revs a bit and I do a lot of 75-80mph highway driving. Let me know your thoughts, thanks!
On the highway they still very predictable and they do lower the revs just a slight bit.
I like the way they look and feel. I took these tires up to the twistys in bear mountain and they performed beautifully
#61
Nice, thanks Manny!!! I just ordered General G-max AS-05 225/50's as I am lowered and realized I'd probably have to change my ride height if I went with the 55's. Tire rack gave great reviews and even though its a new tire I'm going to take my chances, Ive had good results with General in the past. Hopefully I don't have to change height even though these will be about a 1/2" wider towards the fender. Pretty cool service I'm using in NJ called Momentum Mobile Tire. Tire rack will deliver my tires to them and then they have a mobile van service that is going to come to my job and mount/balance/install/dispose for $88. Pretty good deal considering I wont have to waste time or sit around at a shop waiting for them to get done. They are doing my fiancee tires same day for 64$ (cheaper because 60 series tire).
Last edited by cstrumol; 09-08-2017 at 09:45 AM.
#63
Had the tires installed yesterday (General G-Max AS-05), have about 60 miles on them from my commute and it is a very nice tire. Currently running 40psi front 35psi rear and they feel very good. Much quieter than the runflats, my fiancee even noticed over the phone. Much more compliant ride as well, definitely takes the edge off a lot of the bumps I hit on the daily. Grip cannot be explored yet as they still aren't broken in but definitely have a nice weight to the steering and turn in is very quick. Clearance to my BC coilovers at this height it is very tight. Cannot fit a finger between the tire and the coil but do not see any signs of rubbing yet. Clearance to the fender not a problem. Hit a few big bumps while turning and heard no signs of contact.
#64
Had the tires installed yesterday (General G-Max AS-05), have about 60 miles on them from my commute and it is a very nice tire. Currently running 40psi front 35psi rear and they feel very good. Much quieter than the runflats, my fiancee even noticed over the phone. Much more compliant ride as well, definitely takes the edge off a lot of the bumps I hit on the daily. Grip cannot be explored yet as they still aren't broken in but definitely have a nice weight to the steering and turn in is very quick. Clearance to my BC coilovers at this height it is very tight. Cannot fit a finger between the tire and the coil but do not see any signs of rubbing yet. Clearance to the fender not a problem. Hit a few big bumps while turning and heard no signs of contact.
#65
#67
Compared to the Pirelli RFs...
Positive: Very noticeable softening of bumps from small to large. Much, much quieter. There's a section of pavement near home that for the last 40k miles I was forced to hang up my phone because of noise with the RFs - dramatically quieter now. Sidewall is much further from the rim, which means better protection from all the parallel parking in San Francisco.
Negative: Less responsive steering. Which is to be expected with softer sidewalls. Not so much that it doesn't feel confident (Cornering feels very good) but certainly a bit less sporty feeling in the wheel.
Overall: Very happy with the switch. As a daily commuter that mostly my wife is driving, I am just fine with having lost a bit of responsiveness in exchange for reduced noise and greater comfort. Rain and snow traction is also expected to be far improved. Some people won't like the sidewall being out so far, but personally, I like it.
#68
#70
I'm running 225\50ZR17 Pirelli PZero Neros and just did a test for another post....
Did the parking lot test, as tight as it would let me turn the wheel and no rubbing...
The road to and from location today is hilly with extreme turns, handling was very nice, was in sport mode....
Had it on the highway yesterday, got it up close to 100 mph and nothing expanded to rub anything, is a wonderful ride....
The tires say light snow but haven't encountered any yet and only had them on for a week so no wet road tests...but I can say, dry roads, these tires stick extremely well.
Did the parking lot test, as tight as it would let me turn the wheel and no rubbing...
The road to and from location today is hilly with extreme turns, handling was very nice, was in sport mode....
Had it on the highway yesterday, got it up close to 100 mph and nothing expanded to rub anything, is a wonderful ride....
The tires say light snow but haven't encountered any yet and only had them on for a week so no wet road tests...but I can say, dry roads, these tires stick extremely well.
My 2019 MINI COOPER F60 comes with 225 55 17 Bridgestone Run Flat Tyres.
I want to be around an Inch taller and want to upgrade to 225 60 17 tyres.Would this be possible?.
Would this damage or affect my vehicle suspension in any way?,
Has anyone done this in the past?.Please advice & share your experience.Thanks.
#71
Hi,
My 2019 MINI COOPER F60 comes with 225 55 17 Bridgestone Run Flat Tyres.
I want to be around an Inch taller and want to upgrade to 225 60 17 tyres.Would this be possible?.
Would this damage or affect my vehicle suspension in any way?,
Has anyone done this in the past?.Please advice & share your experience.Thanks.
My 2019 MINI COOPER F60 comes with 225 55 17 Bridgestone Run Flat Tyres.
I want to be around an Inch taller and want to upgrade to 225 60 17 tyres.Would this be possible?.
Would this damage or affect my vehicle suspension in any way?,
Has anyone done this in the past?.Please advice & share your experience.Thanks.
#72
Hi,
My 2019 MINI COOPER F60 comes with 225 55 17 Bridgestone Run Flat Tyres.
I want to be around an Inch taller and want to upgrade to 225 60 17 tyres.Would this be possible?.
Would this damage or affect my vehicle suspension in any way?,
Has anyone done this in the past?.Please advice & share your experience.Thanks.
My 2019 MINI COOPER F60 comes with 225 55 17 Bridgestone Run Flat Tyres.
I want to be around an Inch taller and want to upgrade to 225 60 17 tyres.Would this be possible?.
Would this damage or affect my vehicle suspension in any way?,
Has anyone done this in the past?.Please advice & share your experience.Thanks.
use this to help with the width. Going taller will fit in the wheel wells, but the trade off will be the handling and the suspension reaction and feel. The taller tire is going to feel sluggish in the turns, due to tire sway, and taking off from a stop (you’re adding weight to the wheels). Upside the ride might be less harsh (depending on the tire type).
#73
Hello All,
I'm a newbie here in this forum.
I just purchased a pre-owned 2015 Countryman S where the previous owner installed Michelin Pilot Sport A/s 3+ 225/50ZR17 in place of a standard RF 205/55R17 tires. I did a simple comparison of the two different tire size; the 225 size is roughly about 0.5 inch wider than the 205. So my questions are:
1) Will the wider 225 tire cause added stress onto the suspension since the car's alignment was based on the factory 205 size tire.
2) When I get a wheel alignment in the future, is the factory setting ok to use with the wider 225 size tire.
3) The factory tire pressure recommendation on the label on the door calls for 32 PSI for F and R. Do I also apply the same pressure value to the wider 225 tires.
I would greatly appreciate any feedback this.
Thanks.
I'm a newbie here in this forum.
I just purchased a pre-owned 2015 Countryman S where the previous owner installed Michelin Pilot Sport A/s 3+ 225/50ZR17 in place of a standard RF 205/55R17 tires. I did a simple comparison of the two different tire size; the 225 size is roughly about 0.5 inch wider than the 205. So my questions are:
1) Will the wider 225 tire cause added stress onto the suspension since the car's alignment was based on the factory 205 size tire.
2) When I get a wheel alignment in the future, is the factory setting ok to use with the wider 225 size tire.
3) The factory tire pressure recommendation on the label on the door calls for 32 PSI for F and R. Do I also apply the same pressure value to the wider 225 tires.
I would greatly appreciate any feedback this.
Thanks.
#74
Hello All,
I'm a newbie here in this forum.
I just purchased a pre-owned 2015 Countryman S where the previous owner installed Michelin Pilot Sport A/s 3+ 225/50ZR17 in place of a standard RF 205/55R17 tires. I did a simple comparison of the two different tire size; the 225 size is roughly about 0.5 inch wider than the 205. So my questions are:
1) Will the wider 225 tire cause added stress onto the suspension since the car's alignment was based on the factory 205 size tire.
2) When I get a wheel alignment in the future, is the factory setting ok to use with the wider 225 size tire.
3) The factory tire pressure recommendation on the label on the door calls for 32 PSI for F and R. Do I also apply the same pressure value to the wider 225 tires.
I would greatly appreciate any feedback this.
Thanks.
I'm a newbie here in this forum.
I just purchased a pre-owned 2015 Countryman S where the previous owner installed Michelin Pilot Sport A/s 3+ 225/50ZR17 in place of a standard RF 205/55R17 tires. I did a simple comparison of the two different tire size; the 225 size is roughly about 0.5 inch wider than the 205. So my questions are:
1) Will the wider 225 tire cause added stress onto the suspension since the car's alignment was based on the factory 205 size tire.
2) When I get a wheel alignment in the future, is the factory setting ok to use with the wider 225 size tire.
3) The factory tire pressure recommendation on the label on the door calls for 32 PSI for F and R. Do I also apply the same pressure value to the wider 225 tires.
I would greatly appreciate any feedback this.
Thanks.
2nd- Wheel alignment to factory specs would be just fine.
C- Tire Pressure is preference. I found upping the Tire Pressure to 38-40psi keeps the handling crisp. This also varies depending on the ambient temp
#75
I'm looking at some used wheels just like yours with 225/50/17 tires. My current OEM silver spoke wheels have 225/45ZR/18 tires. Will I be disappointed with the smaller wheel? I don't really like all that fender space either.
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QUOTE=1QukMINI;3864367]Yep, got the 225/45/17 BF Goodrich Sport Comp 2s installed yesterday. First off, the ride is WAYYY better than the RFs. Second, as you can see, 17" wheels look wayyyy too small on there, I need to upgrade to some 18"s soon. #mindthegap
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QUOTE=1QukMINI;3864367]Yep, got the 225/45/17 BF Goodrich Sport Comp 2s installed yesterday. First off, the ride is WAYYY better than the RFs. Second, as you can see, 17" wheels look wayyyy too small on there, I need to upgrade to some 18"s soon. #mindthegap
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