Drivetrain Resonator and 2nd Cat Delete - CM4

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Old 03-17-2013, 02:34 PM
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Sorry, nothing I can say/do at the moment.
 
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Originally Posted by Theta

6) For a simple tune without any mods (the exhaust mod is more for sound on the R60), I would suggest the NM tune. It's $500 out the door, and offers the most bang-for-the-buck on an otherwise stock R60S.

Feel free to ask any other questions, and I'll be happy to answer them.
Is NM doing 2013 models now? Last I saw 2011 was the only model CM they could do.
 
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Excellent point - my brain goes absent from time to time...

They are only able to do 2011 and 2012 (pre-09/12). For 2013, you're limited to RENN and ETG.

My apologies.
 
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Originally Posted by Theta
Excellent point - my brain goes absent from time to time...

They are only able to do 2011 and 2012 (pre-09/12). For 2013, you're limited to RENN and ETG.

My apologies.
so there are now 3 different ECUs on the countryman now?

2011/early 2012, late 2012 and 2013?

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Post-09/2012 is the current AG/Siemens/Bosch DME/ECU.

So, two N18 DME/ECU versions thus far.
 
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Originally Posted by bmwr606
so there are now 3 different ECUs on the countryman now?

2011/early 2012, late 2012 and 2013?

scott
Three Countryman, but four MINI ECUs total:

ECU on N14 engine: Freely tunable via flash method

2011 to January 2012: Bench tune only; virtually all tuners capable

February 2012 to 2013: Bench tune only; ETG and RENNtech only capable tuners

2013 -- : On lockdown
 
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Not exactly... I'll edit that a bit:

ECU on N14 engine: Freely tunable via flash method

N18 2011 to 02/2012: Bench tune only; virtually all tuners capable

02/2012 to 09/2012: Bench tune only; ETG and RENNtech leading the pack

2013 -- : On lockdown - ETG and RENNtech only capable tuners -- RENN is the only tuner for the 2013 JCW/GP as of yet.
 
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Originally Posted by Theta
Not exactly... I'll edit that a bit:
Ah, thanks Theta. I forgot that the 2012 JCWs still had N14 engines.

Two points:

1) Who else are tuning the 02/2012 to 09/2012 N18s other than ETG and RENNtech? NM can't, Evolve can't, and RMW seems very disinclined.

2) Your description of the tuning capabilities for the 2013 cars seems contradictory.
 
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That's correct about the JCWs.

The N18 post-09/12 through current production are all the same. RENNtech is the only surefire tuner for all of these. They are able to tune the brand new JCWs like mine, along with the GP, R61, etc. I have heard ETG isn't having issues, but can't confirm.

The 02/12-09/12 issue seems like it's close to getting opened up by NM and the others, nothing firmed up yet. That was a revision change, but not a full-on ECU model change from what I've seen.

09/12 -> Current production has the new ECU. It's a beast.
 
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I picked up my 2013 CM4 today!

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Doing the resonator and 2nd cat delete and installing the K&N RU-1540 filter tomorrow!
 
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Nice! Glad to hear it!
 
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Cutting the 2nd cat and resonator out and replacing the stock air box with a K&N RU-1540 filter is by far the best $100 you can spend on your R60. It has a nice deep sound that is louder but not too loud and has a small boost in performance. Thanks for all the advice!
 
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Glad I/we didn't steer you wrong!

Such a cheap start to making the car so much nicer.
 
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I'm really tempted to grab a set of these red rims.

http://www.nm-eng.com/nm880501s-nm-e...ght-wheel.html

I am happy with the power I have now and the handling of the sports suspension. Any other modifications I should look at before rims?

I realize this isn't the wheel and tire thread but I thought it would be useful for a new r60 owner to have all this information in one place. Thanks!
 
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Those have the wrong bolt pattern. We need 5x120 for the R60.
 
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^ ^ Absolutely correct.
 
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Any recommendations for a wider set of rims?
 
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Arghh. I can't find a shop to remove my 2nd cat.

Does the new exhaust piece look straight or are there bends in it?

Wonder if I can DIY the delete and clamp in a straight piece of pipe. Looks like 2 1/8" pipe should work.
 
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Originally Posted by inclinelongboards
Any recommendations for a wider set of rims?
NM RSe14

http://www.nm-eng.com/nm881401g-nm-e...ght-wheel.html
 
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Those are awesome except for being 19s! That's huge haha.
 
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Those are awesome except for being 19s! That's huge haha.
In that case, OZ Superturismo LM in 18x8" et50
 
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I'm looking for the widest 17" wheels that don't rub.
Does anybody have a recommendation on width and offset? I want more tire to stick the corners.

What do you think about these?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialP artNumber=MR11878052745B&wheelMake=MOTEGI+RACING&w heelModel=MR118&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear =no&autoMake=Mini&autoModel=Cooper+S+Countryman&au toYear=2013&autoModClar=ALL4&filterFinish=Black&fi lterSize=17&filterBrand=All&filterSpecial=false&fi lterNew=All&filterWeight=All&sort=Brand

To keep this thread on topic, I am going to take some sound clips of the 2nd cat and resonator delete with the k&n ru-1540 air filter.
 

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Hey fellas my car is stock ctmS except the JCW exhaust. The exhaust is deeper but feel not much louder then stock. If I get the resonator and 2nd cat deleted it will prob make it louder but any idea if it will be way too loud? Unbearable ? Drone? This is my daily driver I drive it 35-37k a year with 80% 75-90mph ans 20% 40-60

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Originally Posted by Sliksunny
Hey fellas my car is stock ctmS except the JCW exhaust. The exhaust is deeper but feel not much louder then stock. If I get the resonator and 2nd cat deleted it will prob make it louder but any idea if it will be way too loud? Unbearable ? Drone? This is my daily driver I drive it 35-37k a year with 80% 75-90mph ans 20% 40-60

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I had my JCW exhaust done at time of delivery and they took my resonator out for the JCW exhaust....I was going to cut mine out too, got under and saw it was gone....called the dealer and told me that's how JCW exhaust is meant to be...might double check to see if you truly have it or not...removing second cat won't give you any extra sound though
 
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Originally Posted by hendricks488
I had my JCW exhaust done at time of delivery and they took my resonator out for the JCW exhaust....I was going to cut mine out too, got under and saw it was gone....called the dealer and told me that's how JCW exhaust is meant to be...might double check to see if you truly have it or not...removing second cat won't give you any extra sound though
This is an untrue statement regarding the second cat.

Removing this restriction nets a very large and noticeable increase in both flow and sound, especially with regard to pop & burble.
 


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