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Old 04-18-2007, 09:39 PM
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Alphabetical
  • Alabama Motoring Society - 2 sub 7
  • Bluegrass Minis - 9 sub 5*
  • Brew Swap - 4 sub 18
  • DC Metro MINIs - 22 sub 22*
  • Gulf South Motoring - 8 sub 0
  • Michigan MINI - 6 sub 21
  • Middle Tennessee MINIs - 13 sub 13*
  • MINICCI - 5 sub 21
  • MINI Channel - 7 sub 21 - always use while driving!
  • Monte Carlo Casino - 1 sub 1 (snake eyes! )
  • Ocean State MINI Club - 3 sub 3
  • Philly MINIacs - 11 sub 5*
  • PittStop MINI - 21 sub 21*
  • Prima Car Care Team - 12 sub 1*
  • Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club - 20 sub 20*
By Channel
  • 1 sub 1 - Monte Carlo Casino
  • 2 sub 7 - Alabama Motoring Society
  • 3 sub 3 - Ocean State MINI Club
  • 4 sub 18 - Brew Swap
  • 5 sub 21 - MINICCI
  • 6 sub 21 - Michigan MINI
  • 7 sub 21 - MINI Channel - always use while driving!
  • 8 sub 0 - Gulf South Motoring
  • 9 sub 5* - Bluegrass Minis
  • 11 sub 5* - Philly MINIacs
  • 12 sub 1* - Prima Car Care Team
  • 13 sub 13* - Middle Tennessee MINIs
  • 20 sub 20* - Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club
  • 21 sub 21* - PittStop MINI
  • 22 sub 22* - DC Metro MINIs
 
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:29 AM
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14 - 7 for the Chicago MINI Club please.

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Alphabetical
  • Alabama Motoring Society - 2 sub 7
  • Bluegrass Minis - 9 sub 5
  • Brew Swap - 4 sub 18
  • Chicago MINI Club - 14 sub 7
  • DC Metro MINIs - 22 sub 22
  • Gulf South Motoring - 8 sub 0
  • Michigan MINI - 6 sub 21
  • Middle Tennessee MINIs - 13 sub 13
  • MINICCI - 5 sub 21
  • MINI Channel - 7 sub 21 - always use while driving!
  • Monte Carlo Casino - 1 sub 1 (snake eyes! )
  • Ocean State MINI Club - 3 sub 3
  • Philly MINIacs - 11 sub 5
  • PittStop MINI - 21 sub 21*
  • Prima Car Care Team - 12 sub 1
  • Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club - 20 sub 20*
By Channel
  • 1 sub 1 - Monte Carlo Casino
  • 2 sub 7 - Alabama Motoring Society
  • 3 sub 3 - Ocean State MINI Club
  • 4 sub 18 - Brew Swap
  • 5 sub 21 - MINICCI
  • 6 sub 21 - Michigan MINI
  • 7 sub 21 - MINI Channel - always use while driving!
  • 8 sub 0 - Gulf South Motoring
  • 9 sub 5* - Bluegrass Minis
  • 11 sub 5* - Philly MINIacs
  • 12 sub 1* - Prima Car Care Team
  • 13 sub 13* - Middle Tennessee MINIs
  • 14 sub 7* - Chicago MINI Club
  • 20 sub 20* - Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club
  • 21 sub 21* - PittStop MINI
  • 22 sub 22* - DC Metro MINIs
 
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:04 AM
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Sunshine MINIs

Sunshine MINIs

10 Sub 4
 
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:31 AM
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Sunshine MINIs. 10-4. Over and out.

Alphabetical
  • Alabama Motoring Society - 2 sub 7
  • Bluegrass Minis - 9 sub 5
  • Brew Swap - 4 sub 18
  • Chicago MINI Club - 14 sub 7
  • DC Metro MINIs - 22 sub 22
  • Gulf South Motoring - 8 sub 0
  • Michigan MINI - 6 sub 21
  • Middle Tennessee MINIs - 13 sub 13
  • MINICCI - 5 sub 21
  • MINI Channel - 7 sub 21 - always use while driving!
  • Monte Carlo Casino - 1 sub 1 (snake eyes! )
  • Ocean State MINI Club - 3 sub 3
  • Philly MINIacs - 11 sub 5
  • PittStop MINI - 21 sub 21
  • Prima Car Care Team - 12 sub 1
  • Sunshine MINIs - 10 Sub 4
  • Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club - 20 sub 20
By Channel
  • 1 sub 1 - Monte Carlo Casino
  • 2 sub 7 - Alabama Motoring Society
  • 3 sub 3 - Ocean State MINI Club
  • 4 sub 18 - Brew Swap
  • 5 sub 21 - MINICCI
  • 6 sub 21 - Michigan MINI
  • 7 sub 21 - MINI Channel - always use while driving!
  • 8 sub 0* - Gulf South Motoring
  • 9 sub 5* - Bluegrass Minis
  • 10 Sub 4* - Sunshine MINIs
  • 11 sub 5* - Philly MINIacs
  • 12 sub 1* - Prima Car Care Team
  • 13 sub 13* - Middle Tennessee MINIs
  • 14 sub 7* - Chicago MINI Club
  • 20 sub 20* - Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club
  • 21 sub 21* - PittStop MINI
  • 22 sub 22* - DC Metro MINIs
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:15 AM
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Quick question....Forgive my ignorance please....

If a main channel is already reserved does that mean that the same main channel cannot be reserved with a different sub channel?

Example: Blue Grass Mini has Channel 9 Sub Channel 5 reserved....Could we reserve Channel 9 Sub Channel 1 (and have it not interfer with their channel)?

Thank you!
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:21 AM
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I hope that Paul! will chime in here if more detail is necessary (or I get something wrong.) But here is a simplified version of an answer:

Possibly.

Ideally, everyone would choose their own channel and subchannel before we double up on any of the main channels. I believe that the problem arises from how different radios use/recognize the subchannels. Here is a bit from Paul!'s earlier longer explanation:

The way they work is like so: The channels are individual frequencies. The sub-channels of a channel are on the same freq, but use a different 'call-up header' when you push the button, so the radios know what sub-channel you're talking on, and know whether to receive the communication, or to ignore it.

The problem is this: When you're communicating on a channel, you're also effectively communicating on all of the sub-channels, even if radios listening to other sub-channels don't pick it up. This is a problem because if you have two or more groups operating on a channel, even if they're on separate sub-channels, they will interfere with and jam each other.
 
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Here is an explination. Let's use channel #1.

Any radio set to Channel #1 regardless of subcode, (38) CTCSS (Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System) codes or (83) DCS (Digitally Coded Squelch) codes, still receives ALL traffic on channel #1.

The subcode is used to trigger your radio to open the squelch to hear the transmission. However your radio is actually receiving everything, you just won't hear it.

So if everyone were using the same channel even with different subcodes, the radio frequency (462.5625 UHF) for channel #1 would be saturated, and there will be lot's of interference, which will lessen the already crappy range of these radios, and will allow crosstalk, and transmissions to be "stepped on" by others.
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by awood279
Quick question....Forgive my ignorance please....

If a main channel is already reserved does that mean that the same main channel cannot be reserved with a different sub channel?

Example: Blue Grass Mini has Channel 9 Sub Channel 5 reserved....Could we reserve Channel 9 Sub Channel 1 (and have it not interfer with their channel)?

Thank you!
What the two above said!

Since there's still main channels available, I would go with them. But, if, for example, Blue Grass MINI is staying at Fontana, and your group is at Tapoco, it probably won't be a problem, just as long as the two groups stayed a healthy distance away from each other. Now if your group drove over to Fontana and started using the same channel (even if it's different subchannels), the two groups would be interfering with each other.


-Paul!
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:40 AM
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CinciMINIs 15 sub 15 please!
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:05 AM
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Channel 4, which I'm using from Friday around noon until Midnight, will be free on Thursday and Saturday. I just ask that you don't interfere on Friday as it'll be crucial for event communication.
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:42 PM
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Thanks everyone for the info.!
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:28 PM
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Alphabetical
  • Alabama Motoring Society - 2 sub 7
  • Bluegrass Minis - 9 sub 5
  • Brew Swap - 4 sub 18
  • Chicago MINI Club - 14 sub 7
  • CinciMINIs - 15 sub 15
  • DC Metro MINIs - 22 sub 22
  • Gulf South Motoring - 8 sub 0
  • Michigan MINI - 6 sub 21
  • Middle Tennessee MINIs - 13 sub 13
  • MINICCI - 5 sub 21
  • MINI Channel - 7 sub 21 - always use while driving!
  • Monte Carlo Casino - 1 sub 1 (snake eyes! )
  • Ocean State MINI Club - 3 sub 3
  • Philly MINIacs - 11 sub 5
  • PittStop MINI - 21 sub 21
  • Prima Car Care Team - 12 sub 1
  • Sunshine MINIs - 10 Sub 4
  • Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club - 20 sub 20
By Channel
  • 1 sub 1 - Monte Carlo Casino
  • 2 sub 7 - Alabama Motoring Society
  • 3 sub 3 - Ocean State MINI Club
  • 4 sub 18 - Brew Swap
  • 5 sub 21 - MINICCI
  • 6 sub 21 - Michigan MINI
  • 7 sub 21 - MINI Channel - always use while driving!
  • 8 sub 0* - Gulf South Motoring
  • 9 sub 5* - Bluegrass Minis
  • 10 Sub 4* - Sunshine MINIs
  • 11 sub 5* - Philly MINIacs
  • 12 sub 1* - Prima Car Care Team
  • 13 sub 13* - Middle Tennessee MINIs
  • 14 sub 7* - Chicago MINI Club
  • 15 sub 15* - CinciMINIs
  • 20 sub 20* - Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club
  • 21 sub 21* - PittStop MINI
  • 22 sub 22* - DC Metro MINIs
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:47 PM
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Can you please put "Hampton Roads Club MINI" down for Channel 16, Sub 10?

Thank you!
 
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Another dumb question - As stated by Mielnicki, there are two sub codes 1 thru 38 CTCSS and 1 thru 83 DCS. When you list something like 21 sub 21, which are you refering to? Would there not be two different sub 21s? DCS and CTCSS? I am confused (not hard to do)


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Here is an explination. Let's use channel #1.

Any radio set to Channel #1 regardless of subcode, (38) CTCSS (Continuous Tone Coded Squelch System) codes or (83) DCS (Digitally Coded Squelch) codes, still receives ALL traffic on channel #1.

The subcode is used to trigger your radio to open the squelch to hear the transmission. However your radio is actually receiving everything, you just won't hear it.

So if everyone were using the same channel even with different subcodes, the radio frequency (462.5625 UHF) for channel #1 would be saturated, and there will be lot's of interference, which will lessen the already crappy range of these radios, and will allow crosstalk, and transmissions to be "stepped on" by others.
 
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jaydeestude
Another dumb question - As stated by Mielnicki, there are two sub codes 1 thru 38 CTCSS and 1 thru 83 DCS. When you list something like 21 sub 21, which are you refering to? Would there not be two different sub 21s? DCS and CTCSS? I am confused (not hard to do)
Yes there would be 2, but we are refering to the more common, CTCSS.
 
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:45 AM
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Wow, the channels are filling up! Only 3 left. Since some people leave before others and so that folks have a little time to print the directory if they choose, I think we should close requests next Wednesday, Apr 25.

Since we are getting close to filling the channels, I'll just re-state that any groups not staying at Fontana are welcome to use a channel already chosen - but at least pick a different subchannel. There may be some intereference issues when everyone is at Fontana but we're just gonna have to manage!

Alphabetical
  • Alabama Motoring Society - 2 sub 7
  • Bluegrass Minis - 9 sub 5
  • Brew Swap - 4 sub 18
  • Chicago MINI Club - 14 sub 7
  • CinciMINIs - 15 sub 15
  • DC Metro MINIs - 22 sub 22
  • Gulf South Motoring - 8 sub 0
  • Hampton Roads Club MINI - 16 Sub 10
  • Michigan MINI - 6 sub 21
  • Middle Tennessee MINIs - 13 sub 13
  • MINICCI - 5 sub 21
  • MINI Channel - 7 sub 21 - always use while driving!
  • Monte Carlo Casino - 1 sub 1 (snake eyes! )
  • Ocean State MINI Club - 3 sub 3
  • Philly MINIacs - 11 sub 5
  • PittStop MINI - 21 sub 21
  • Prima Car Care Team - 12 sub 1
  • Sunshine MINIs - 10 Sub 4
  • Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club - 20 sub 20
By Channel
  • 1 sub 1 - Monte Carlo Casino
  • 2 sub 7 - Alabama Motoring Society
  • 3 sub 3 - Ocean State MINI Club
  • 4 sub 18 - Brew Swap
  • 5 sub 21 - MINICCI
  • 6 sub 21 - Michigan MINI
  • 7 sub 21 - MINI Channel - always use while driving!
  • 8 sub 0* - Gulf South Motoring
  • 9 sub 5* - Bluegrass Minis
  • 10 Sub 4* - Sunshine MINIs
  • 11 sub 5* - Philly MINIacs
  • 12 sub 1* - Prima Car Care Team
  • 13 sub 13* - Middle Tennessee MINIs
  • 14 sub 7* - Chicago MINI Club
  • 15 sub 15* - CinciMINIs
  • 16 Sub 10* - Hampton Roads Club MINI
  • 20 sub 20* - Tar Heel MINI Motoring Club
  • 21 sub 21* - PittStop MINI
  • 22 sub 22* - DC Metro MINIs
 
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6 - 22 for Carnut's Garage please!
 
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6 - 22 for Carnut's Garage please!
Sorry, only channels 17, 18 & 19 are left! We have to keep them separate to prevent interference... pick one of those three and the subchannel you want.
 
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Thanks for adding Hampton Roads Club MINI!
 
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Originally Posted by aday
6 - 22 for Carnut's Garage please!
Originally Posted by Edge
Sorry, only channels 17, 18 & 19 are left! We have to keep them separate to prevent interference... pick one of those three and the subchannel you want.

that's ok. everyone in our group used these channels the last couple of years and will again this year. i was only posting it here to get it up on the list, not much for reservations.
 
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Mini Motoring Club of Utah will be operating on VHF 156.600 freq.
 
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Originally Posted by schooner2
Mini Motoring Club of Utah will be operating on VHF 156.600 freq.
Have you used VHF marine band radios at the Dragon before? If so, how well do they work?
 
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Originally Posted by mielnicki
Have you used VHF marine band radios at the Dragon before? If so, how well do they work?
We have been using them for a few months now, They are fantastic. They have alot more power than at talkabout. Most talkabout have about 1/4 of a watt of transmitting power, The handhelds we use are putting out 5 watts, and the moblies are putting out 45 watts. They are alot cleaner in sound and they can go alot further than talkabouts. We have been super happy with them.
 
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Not to put a downer on this but do you realise you're committing a federal offence using marine band radios in this manner? The rules are invariably published in the user manulas that come with the radios and they aren't just suggestions!
 


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