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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 03:31 AM
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SWorks - can you share the part numbers for the equipment that you ordered?
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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realoem.com seems to show an additional tweeter in the rear... is this true? And what's with the "sound guide" (item 7)? Is this piece new relative to a 2009 R56 with the hi-fi system?

Here's what I see as a comparison for part numbers:

Front
Tweeters: 65133422640 (HiFi) ... 65139204492 (HK)
Mids: 65139143153 (HiFi) ... 65139169690 (HK)
Woofers: 65133422637 (HiFi) ... 65139194841 (HK)

Rear
Tweeters: 65133422639 (HiFi) ... 65139204493 (HK)
Woofers: 65133422636 (HiFi) ... 65139194842 (HK)
Sound Guide: [n/a] (HiFi) ... 65139212070/65139212071 (HK, left/right)

Amp: 65123454362 (HiFi) ... 65129217877 (HK)
 
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Old Aug 17, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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There are tweeters in the rear of the R57 convertible too. They are embedded into the plastic side panel. I did not replace them with HK but kept the original HIFI tweeters both front and rear. I kept the HIFI amp too.

The sound guide looks like a mounting plate to work with the 6" x 9" woofer. The R57 has round rear woofers and they have funky thick plastic "extensions" as part of the speaker to force the speaker to press against the grill.

I'd bet that the HK 6" x 9" will bolt onto the existing sound plates.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Wow… I ordered a set of HKs from across the pond, expecting them to arrive in a couple weeks.
Next freaking day at my door in Arizona!

I didn't select any fancy teleportation shipping option! Just the default (didn't see any other choices)… not that I'm complaining or anything.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbert
Wow… I ordered a set of HKs from across the pond, expecting them to arrive in a couple weeks.
Next freaking day at my door in Arizona!

I didn't select any fancy teleportation shipping option! Just the default (didn't see any other choices)… not that I'm complaining or anything.
Good service then

Let me know when you receive them, make sure they got there safely
 
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dlefever
SWorks - can you share the part numbers for the equipment that you ordered?
Sorry haven't been on here for a while, I posted the part numbers earlier in the thread.

Basically, I changed the A pillars, the door mid range, the door woofers and the rear woofer 6x9. I did not change the rear tweeter. Think I was the first to source and do this and wow what a difference - highly recommended if you want a mid cost plug and play with superior sound quality.

My speakers are well run in now and sound simply amazing. I haven't change to HK amp as it is a big investment with no guarantee that it would actually work.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2010 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SWorks
Good service then

Let me know when you receive them, make sure they got there safely
No, I actually got them today (friday)… and they were shipped just yesterday! That's what amazed me; I wasn't expecting them for another week or two.

And everything looks fine so far. Guess now I have something to do tomorrow.


Originally Posted by SWorks
My speakers are well run in now and sound simply amazing. I haven't change to HK amp as it is a big investment with no guarantee that it would actually work.
I looked at this as well and don't know why it wouldn't work… but I saw the $900 price tag at realoem.com and decided I didn't really need it that badly.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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Ah, now I see why they sold the front tweeters with new A-pilars…

https://i.imgur.com/uQkh4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ifheX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dZMty.jpg
 
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Old Aug 24, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbert
Ah, now I see why they sold the front tweeters with new A-pilars…

https://i.imgur.com/uQkh4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ifheX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/dZMty.jpg

Don't screw up like I did. I mistakenly ordered R-56 HK A Pillar covers mistakenly thinking they were the same for my R-57 convertible and they are very different to allow for the top latch mechanism I may try removing the HK tweeters and installing them in my existing A pillar covers - but I won't have the cool HK logo.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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How difficult is it to change the A-pillar covers?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Jim Swade
How difficult is it to change the A-pillar covers?
30 seconds, just pop the airbag trim logo and unscrew then it simply pulls off
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SWorks
30 seconds, just pop the airbag trim logo and unscrew then it simply pulls off
I find that getting it back on is much more of a pain.
Not the worst thing in the world, but it can be tricky.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Hmm, i didn't find that, just need to locate the two lugs into the dash top and then push it onto the a pillar.

Now replacing the colourline, that is a tricky job, as is removing the rear panels to replace the 6x9s
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SWorks
Now replacing the colourline, that is a tricky job, as is removing the rear panels to replace the 6x9s
I'm doing the 6x9s later this week, so don't scare me off!
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Someone posted this somewhere in NAM and I found it to be helpful : put a piece of tape opposite every snap clip so you will know where the clips are. Also most snap clips have some play in them Make sure the tip of the snap clip is going to hit the holes.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gawannamini
Someone posted this somewhere in NAM and I found it to be helpful : put a piece of tape opposite every snap clip so you will know where the clips are. Also most snap clips have some play in them Make sure the tip of the snap clip is going to hit the holes.
Yeah, I remember reading that somewhere, too.
Another thing I'm going to try to do (may have to make a 2nd pass at removing all the panels, as my order is delayed) is throw on the insulation grommets the BMW door panel clips have.

I already did that to the passenger side door, will absolutely do it to the driver side door, and plan on throwing them on any other clips in the back they will fit on in the hopes of getting rid of some of the small rattles I get on the rough roads out here.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Regarding the tweeters in the back... I can't find them anywhere for order online, but I just got word that my (not quite local) dealer can order them direct from Germany.

Over $90 each, though. (ouch!)

The sad thing is I'm slightly tempted to pull the trigger despite the price, just to complete the set...
Or maybe I'd be better off ordering the front tweeters and soldering on the longer wires from my current hi-fi rear tweeters...
Or maybe there isn't enough improvement over the hi-fi to really matter anyway?
 

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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 06:30 AM
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Here we go guys, next instalment

Want to upgrade from Hi-Fi to Harman Kardon-photo.jpg
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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swapping out for the HK amp eh? IMO that 's the only way it is going to make such a difference. I'm afraid to ask, but what did that part run you?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by toolazyforalogin
swapping out for the HK amp eh? IMO that 's the only way it is going to make such a difference. I'm afraid to ask, but what did that part run you?
Maybe

You'd be surprised actually, i've run the HK speakers since May this year and they do make a massive difference with the hifi amp alone. They are very very good on their own without the amp. It's a well worth while upgrade.

The HK amp is awesome though, another improvement and very loud indeed

Price, well i'm not going to say, it was less than the RRP of £500 anyway
 
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SWorks
Price, well i'm not going to say, it was less than the RRP of £500 anyway
Oh, pleeeeeease! Ordering from BMW is up around $900! If you found it for cheaper, I'd love to know.

Also, I assume it was drop-in with the same harness, right?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbert
Oh, pleeeeeease! Ordering from BMW is up around $900! If you found it for cheaper, I'd love to know.

Also, I assume it was drop-in with the same harness, right?
Pm me, i might be able to do you a deal
 
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 05:21 AM
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Hey guys, I'm selling an HK amp, i have just one here if anybody is interested at a good price. Pm me for details.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SWorks
Hey guys, I'm selling an HK amp, i have just one here if anybody is interested at a good price. Pm me for details.
Wow, looks like I got in at the right time!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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Parts.com has all but the rear tweeters remember you need two of each speaker:

Part Number: 65129217877 AMPLIFIER HIFI HARMA $721.28

Part Number: 65139204492 HARMAN KARDON TWEETE $52.06

Part Number: 65139169690 MIDRANGE SPEAKER HIF $35.28

Part Number: 65139194841 MIDRANGE SPEAKER/WOO $71.05

Part Number: 65139194842 WOOFER HARMAN KARDON $50.63
 
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