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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 05:58 AM
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2012 Countryman MPG

Hey there,

Before our CM was broken in, I noticed horrible MPG (16-20 in the city, 25 on the highway) I attributed this to the B.E.P

So now, 500 miles and a few tanks after the break in, I'm still getting the same ballpark figures.

Avg in the city 18 miles/gallon @ an average of 20 miles/hour.

Avg on the highway in a 20 mile loop 25 miles/gallon @ an average of 65 miles/hour.

We have an automatic All4 with the 17" wheels and A/S RF tires.

What is everyone getting for MPG on their 2012?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 06:06 AM
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Mileage - Variables?

Fill in a few more variables for us:

Sport Mode On/Off
Fuel (Reg / Plus / Premium)
Driving Style
Air Pressure in Tires
Terrain (Flat / Hilly / Mountains)
# of Passengers

I'm getting 26.5 - 28 commuting/around town and @ 30-31 highway with All4/Auto, 33PSI in 17" all seasons, hilly terrain, Fairly Spirited driving, Reg Fuel (mileage improved over Premium) Odometer 3000, Sport mode mostly off, 1-3 people in CM

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Hey there,

Before our CM was broken in, I noticed horrible MPG (16-20 in the city, 25 on the highway) I attributed this to the B.E.P

So now, 500 miles and a few tanks after the break in, I'm still getting the same ballpark figures.

Avg in the city 18 miles/gallon @ an average of 20 miles/hour.

Avg on the highway in a 20 mile loop 25 miles/gallon @ an average of 65 miles/hour.

We have an automatic All4 with the 17" wheels and A/S RF tires.

What is everyone getting for MPG on their 2012?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 07:04 AM
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I experienced the same MPG when I first got my CMS All4 /Manual, however as strange as this may sound, MPG greatly improved after we changed the oil at about 5,000 miles. I am now averaging 30.1 mpg overall (town/highway).

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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by michaeldammit
Fill in a few more variables for us:

Sport Mode On/Off
Fuel (Reg / Plus / Premium)
Driving Style
Air Pressure in Tires
Terrain (Flat / Hilly / Mountains)
# of Passengers

I'm getting 26.5 - 28 commuting/around town and @ 30-31 highway with All4/Auto, 33PSI in 17" all seasons, hilly terrain, Fairly Spirited driving, Reg Fuel (mileage improved over Premium) Odometer 3000, Sport mode mostly off, 1-3 people in CM
I experience the same, but roughly 1 mpg more with just one person in the car. With my family of four in and I am driving then I get your same ranges.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 07:34 AM
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I'm getting around 23.5 around town with some mix of highway(55-65 mph) I really haven't done a lot of stright highway driving but the last time I drove her up the mountain I got 27.7. I'll also note that I have a slightly larger tire 205/55/17.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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in a 2011 I get an avg of 28, with a high of 36 on my commute to work if I baby it
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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I'm averaging about 24.5 MPG combined with city/highway driving, fairly spirited driving, sport mode off most of the time, flat/hilly terrain. I do warm it up in the morning to get the ice off the car and it idles through a lot of my lunch hour during the workday. I've got about 7800 miles on the car and always use premium gas, as recommended. No oil change yet.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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I have 3K miles and have averaged 23 mgp even. My commute is about 15 miles each way and half of that is city, the other half highway. Hilly terrain, manual, Sport mode ALWAYS on. Spirited driving only if the mood calls for it. In my 2009 Cooper S Clubman was getting 28 mpg for same driving pattern/route.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by michaeldammit
Fill in a few more variables for us:

Sport Mode On/Off
Fuel (Reg / Plus / Premium)
Driving Style
Air Pressure in Tires
Terrain (Flat / Hilly / Mountains)
# of Passengers

I'm getting 26.5 - 28 commuting/around town and @ 30-31 highway with All4/Auto, 33PSI in 17" all seasons, hilly terrain, Fairly Spirited driving, Reg Fuel (mileage improved over Premium) Odometer 3000, Sport mode mostly off, 1-3 people in CM
Sport mode has been on and off with slight variations (1mpg)
Fuel is always 93
Driving style is spirited and conservative both (with slight improvement in mpg on the highway, none noticeable around town) What may be more telling is that I have 1800 miles and my oil gauge reads 12,000 miles to change. That leads me to believe that my driving is more rigorous than normal.
Passengers, in the city mostly one. on the highway, mostly 3 passengers, my wife and our baby. I have done 95% of the driving and I did not check my wifes MPG, which is another factor.

The terrain is relatively flat in the city. on the highway it can be rolling small hills.

Also, traffic is generally flowing in the city, though there are just a ton of stoplights around Boston. one factor that I thought of is a higher than what I would expect burn rate of fuel when at idle.

I actually had more info in my original pass at my post but thought it was TMI. I do think that it might be a good idea for me to do a full blown DOE to see what factor(s) attribute to my lower than expected MPG.

What are you thoughts, Michael?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MsBrit
I experienced the same MPG when I first got my CMS All4 /Manual, however as strange as this may sound, MPG greatly improved after we changed the oil at about 5,000 miles. I am now averaging 30.1 mpg overall (town/highway).

MsBrit
This is reassuring. I'm contemplating changing the oil since the car is past BEP.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2012 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rcsmrk
I have 3K miles and have averaged 23 mgp even. My commute is about 15 miles each way and half of that is city, the other half highway. Hilly terrain, manual, Sport mode ALWAYS on. Spirited driving only if the mood calls for it. In my 2009 Cooper S Clubman was getting 28 mpg for same driving pattern/route.
This was many years ago and I've put in a few lbs over the years () but I got 25mpg with more spirited driving in my R53 manual 17" A/S RF and 32 mpg on the highway. Other factors are my weight, the cars weight, manual transmission AWD, and the different engines, turbo vs supercharger.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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I'm getting 27MPG on manual all4 using 91 octane (highest readily available here), mostly highway but lots of steep hills in town. Previous car used to return 16MPG under same conditions.

What's BEP?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Getting around 24 mpg (imperial) here, about 20 mpg US. 95 RON. S All4 Auto, short hops in town mainly.
 

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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MPG of 23.8 around town in a S ALL4 Auto . I have converted this from my UK figure of 28.6mpg. 14 months of ownership & 4000 miles. Would have liked & expected better. Petrol here is 95 RON.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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[pedantic rant]

A few comments:

- Thanks to the folks that did the Imperial to US gallon conversion.

- It would be good to standardize the reporting of MPG based on calculations (miles divided by US-Gal) rather than using the MINI calculation that is reported. Sometimes the MINI figure is spot-on, other times not so much. Doing the math helps ensure that a common algorithm is used for the numbers we report.

- Remember that in many regions of NA, a special "winter blend" of fuel is distributed as soon as the weather gets colder. In my years of owning BMWs/MINIs, I have noticed about a 2 MPG drop using this fuel.

- If you're OCD, like me, about maintaining records of your vehicles, get an app like Gas Cubby to help you plot your mileage on the fly. I use Excel and my gas receipts; old habits die hard!

Our CMS info:

Our CMS (non-All4) has a bit over 2300 miles on it (delivered mid-December), has been filled with 93 octane AKA (98 RON), is an automatic, filled to standard tire pressure, and runs in the Northeast US during a very mild winter. Here are the data to date:


Overall, we are getting 25.1 US-MPG combined with a bias toward city driving (60% city, 40% highway). You'll notice the variation in the "Indicated MPG" versus the "Calculated MPG". The BMW (Seimens) MPG algorithm has got better since 2003, but its still not a reliable indication of actual MPG. FWIW -- my 2009 BMW R1200RT motorcycle's MPG calculation is usually within 0.4% of the actual MPG! Why can't they do that in their cars?

Finally, if you must use the indicated MPG to gauge your efforts, you can increase the accuracy of the number reported by zero-ing out the average speed AND the average MPG each time you fill up. You'll still be off (see the "Percent Difference" in the table above) but sometimes not by much!

[/pedantic rant]
 

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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You can now see fuel consumption for 21 Mini CMs on Fuelly representing a variety of gearbox/2A or 4A, S or non-S combinations. I'll add car when I get it next week.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/mini/countryman

I might add that winter temperatures, winter blend fuel, and especially short trips can kill your mileage even if you have good driving techniques.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Treerider
{snip}...Petrol here is 95 RON.
That the equivalent of about 91 octane AKA here in NA.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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I am getting on average 29-30 miles per gallon.

32-33 miles per gallon on the highway and 27 miles per gallon in the city.

91 octane, 10% ethanol.

I don't baby the car at all. Pretty much run it 75 on highway and 45-55 on dirt country roads. Not a lot of stop and go traffic because I live in a small town. But lots of stop signs.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by michaeldammit

I'm getting 26.5 - 28 commuting/around town and @ 30-31 highway with All4/Auto, 33PSI in 17" all seasons, hilly terrain, Fairly Spirited driving, Reg Fuel (mileage improved over Premium) Odometer 3000, Sport mode mostly off, 1-3 people in CM

Mileage improved with regular fuel? Can you explain a little further please? Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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I average 25mpgs combined.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by b&WCM
I am getting on average 29-30 miles per gallon.

32-33 miles per gallon on the highway and 27 miles per gallon in the city.

91 octane, 10% ethanol.

I don't baby the car at all. Pretty much run it 75 on highway and 45-55 on dirt country roads. Not a lot of stop and go traffic because I live in a small town. But lots of stop signs.
What kind of CM do you have?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Are folks reporting MPG via calculation or just what the display reads????? Please post only calculated MPG, preferably!~

The display can be off -- check my earlier post!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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I have about 550 miles on Rupert so far. He has been doing great. He is All4 S Manual. So for my first fill up I got 22.78798 mpg after dividing miles driven by gallons bought. For my second fill up using the same calculation method, I got 31.0001659... I did it a couple different times because I thought that couldn't be right, but every time it came out the same.
Rupert says I'm getting 24 mpg on his computer...

I drive like someone bad is chasing me! Coming into Atlanta everyday I do a lot of interstate drving but usually 70-90 mph and then I do hit some traffic stop and go traffic. When I'm driving in town I think a stop light is a racing strip. I use 93 octane gas. I am still abiding by the break-in rules (though everyonce in a while I have to rev past 4500 for traffic reasons but absolutely no cruise control). I'm hoping on the next fill up I see the same results.


This is a lot better than expected so I half think I did some calculation wrong! I'll keep you posted!
 

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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lvwtidoSmithBusting
I have about 550 miles on Rupert so far. He has been doing great. He is All4 S Manual. So for my first fill up I got 22.78798 mpg after dividing miles driven by gallons bought. For my second fill up using the same calculation method, I got 31.0001659... I did it a couple different times because I thought that couldn't be right, but every time it came out the same.
Rupert says I'm getting 24 mpg on his computer...

I drive like someone bad is chasing me! Coming into Atlanta everyday I do a lot of interstate drving but usually 70-90 mph and then I do hit some traffic stop and go traffic. When I'm driving in town I think a stop light is a racing strip. I use 93 octane gas. I am still abiding by the break-in rules (though everyonce in a while I have to rev past 4500 for traffic reasons but absolutely no cruise control). I'm hoping on the next fill up I see the same results.


This is a lot better than expected so I half think I did some calculation wrong! I'll keep you posted!
Sounds too good to be true! I'm averaging less than 24 MPG according to the on board calculator (only on my 2nd tank of gas). Hopefully it will improve over time. Most my driving is very short trips less than 10 miles around, so that could contribute to the poor mileage thus far.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 07:22 AM
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Just got my car for 5 days, already had 600 miles on it, two fill up. average mpg is 24.88 (calculated), 93 gas. a little below what I expected, but hopefully it will improve after break-in period.
 
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