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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Yep, you know you have The MINI Bug when the first five items on your Christmas wish list are all MC-related.


BTW, skitelluride531, I was remiss in not telling you in my previous post how great your MINI looks !! I can't recall seeing any car more shiny than that appears in your pics. Impressive !
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ImagoX
Yeah, I have the feeing it's going to be a "Very MINI Christmas" this year...

Yay for me!
Still need to barrow mine this weekend? Call me after work if you do...
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Finding answers to these questions is as simple as going to the NAM store

http://store.northamericanmotoring.c...t=0&bestseller

The numbers are just a part number.

#80 refers to Speed Glaze which is the most commonly used polish/paint cleaner in the Meguiar's line.

#83 Dual Action Cleaner Polish (DACP) is about twice as aggressive as #80--the numbers are meaningless--they are just numbers much like a name is.

Sometimes the # sign is replaced with an M as in M80. It refers to the same thing--M actually stands for Mirror Glaze--the product line name for the professional polishes.

There's also #82 which is half as aggressive as #80 and then there is #84 which is the most coarse and it's even used with a PC.

As far as anyone should be concerned with the PC--#80, #83, #82 are all you need. Get a PC, and get #80 and you will be all set.

Some people may suggest Swirl Remover 2.0 which is similar to #82.

If you don't use the Meguiar's professional products, there are similar choices in the off the shelf products, but no actual equivalents. Best to start with the Pro products if you ask me.

Richard

Originally Posted by Peter W.
one more question, how do you know what polishe to use first to remove swirls, that is my main concern. I like the mothers reflections polish as a top coat so what i really need is a nice wax that can remove swirls with the porter cable. Any suggestions? I really don't understand all the numbers by Meguiars, can you explain that too, or anyone else who has an idea that would like to help?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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sharp looking ride man... closest thing to a mirror
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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holy crap! that looks awesome.. how long did it take?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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Nice job..

Really nice detail--I forgot to mention in my last reply.

Can you tell us more about your use of #21 and Tech Wax? What was the reasoning behind this, and what order?

Thanks!

Richard
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter W.
one more question, how do you know what polishe to use first to remove swirls, that is my main concern. I like the mothers reflections polish as a top coat so what i really need is a nice wax that can remove swirls with the porter cable. Any suggestions? I really don't understand all the numbers by Meguiars, can you explain that too, or anyone else who has an idea that would like to help?
How bad (read: how deep and how many) are your swirls and on what color paint?

In all likelihood, Prima Swirl will do the trick to remove your swirls (hence the name). It's not a filler, so you would be physically removing the swirls instead of just filling them as some products do. The Swirl with the orange pad (Lake Country system) can do wonders for swirl removal.

If the swirls are super, super fine and few, then you may be able to get away with the Prima Finish instead. Finish is also a true abrasive but it's extremely light. It's nice for paint "you think is perfect" until you start working on it. It'll get all that really fine, surface stuff out.

The Prima line doesn't use numbers... just descriptive words to help you figure out what you need to do.

-Heather
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Thanks for all the help Richard and Heather. Now my last question, best deal with the porter cable, pads, and waxes I need. I know what your answer is Heather and I hear great reviews about detailers paradise, just want to hear other peoples opinions. Sorry Connor for turning this thread into a different topic. Your mini still looks great. I would like some input from you to if you have a moment. Thanks
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Wow! Lots of responses here guys! Thanks for all the compliments! To respond to a few of the comments:


Originally Posted by aiiee
Great looking car. I never thought to 'spot' polish, but it sounds like a good time saver. I am assuming you used a more aggressive polish to do that?
I think Octane Guy might have already answered this, but yes...I did use a more agressive polish on the areas that needed it.

Originally Posted by Mark C.
Yeah, no kidding, that is ridiculous! Something about a black car all shined up...of course it only lasts 5 minutes


Originally Posted by HHFD633
conner why do you use so many glazes and waxes on top of each other? Is it a big bennifit to use glaze , wax, sealent, then carnuba. I am lost
Well, the main purpose of the Showcar glaze is the bring out the color more (it works really well, especially on darker paint colors). The glaze really does not have much of any other purpose besides that. As far as I know, it does not offer any sort of protection for the paint, and since it is non-abrasive, it does nothing to remove swirls (although it may help fill or hide whatever swirls still remain).

As for the wax, sealant, and carnauba madness...scroll down a bit in this post as I think I may answer your question in the next reply.

Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Really nice detail--I forgot to mention in my last reply.

Can you tell us more about your use of #21 and Tech Wax? What was the reasoning behind this, and what order?

Thanks!

Richard
Thanks! On the boot of the MINI, I applied two coats of tech wax followed by two coats of #21, with P21S on top (simply because I like the way it makes the paint look). I decided to apply more layers on the boot simply because I wanted to see if this would help keep the MINIs boot clean for a longer period of time. From what I can tell, it seems to have helped a little bit.

On the rest of the car, I did one coat of NXT, followed by two layers of #21. I also topped it with the P21S.

Originally Posted by Jeremy1026
I like how you blurred your license plate in the shot of the boot, but didn't blur it in the 1st picture...if your worried about it, you might wanna blur it
Although you do make a good point. Honestly, I am not too worried about it though. I just am used to doing it since I have to when I post pictures of other people's cars on my website.

Originally Posted by snooter
If I drive to Texas, will you do my Mini???


Originally Posted by kenchan
Epic'll last longer.

god damn it, im turning into a cheezy used car salesman!
No fair! you get cooler smilies than I do. Haha...but seriously, where are you finding those? I can't seem to locate them in the "Smilie" box.

Originally Posted by Peter W.
Looks awesome. I thought my mini comes out good when I clean it, but you just sealed the deal. I guess i need to get the porter cable buffer. How hard is it to use connor? I am in the detailing business also but I like to apply the waxes by hand, but you just convinced me to get the random buffer. Keep up the good work.
Like others have already said, the Porter Cable works great on getting rid of swirls (assuming you use the correct products). It is also great for quickly and effectively applying a thin coat of wax or sealant to the paint. It is very easy to use, and would highly recommend purchasing Octane Guy's Corvette Porter Cable video to correctly learn how to use it!

Originally Posted by everytimeidie027
holy crap! that looks awesome.. how long did it take?
Well, I did the majority of the polishing on Saturday, and then applied one coat of wax that night. But the next day I had to get up early to do some detailing. When I got back, I rewashed the MINI and then applied the rest of the wax and the sealant ect. ect. I would say I spent between 8-9 hours on it total though.


Originally Posted by Peter W.
Thanks for all the help Richard and Heather. Now my last question, best deal with the porter cable, pads, and waxes I need. I know what your answer is Heather and I hear great reviews about detailers paradise, just want to hear other peoples opinions. Sorry Connor for turning this thread into a different topic. Your mini still looks great. I would like some input from you to if you have a moment. Thanks

Hey Peter! Although I have heard great things about the products from Detailer's Paradise, I have not had a personal use with the products they sell. I would love to try the prime lineup, but currently meguiars is working well for me, and well...I always felt that I don't need to fix something if it isn't broken. But one of these days I will get around to trying it.


I personally order all of my detailing equipment from www.autodetailingsolutions.com They have the best prices on the web for Meguiars products that I have seen.
 

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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nice job!
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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The actual site is actually www.autodetailingsolutions.com Oops!
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Car looks fantastic Connor, well done!

FWIW to the people who are interested in the PorterCable random orbital polisher (from Griots or anywhere else), I have the Griots DVD and OctaneGuy's DVD on how to use it. I learned next to nothing from the Griots DVD and I'm pissed I actually had to pay for it. OctaneGuy's DVD on the other hand took me from n00b status who knew nothing about detailing cars to an intermediate detailer level in easy to understand and follow steps. All the helpful people in this forum are filling in all the gaps in knowledge that remain. I'm still working on experience and practice to truly be at an intermediate level though.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by speednut
I learned next to nothing from the Griots DVD and I'm pissed I actually had to pay for it.
Call them, I am sure they will fix that for you.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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that's perfect !
 
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