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TyrolSport R56 Upgraded Front Mount Intercooler Group Buy

This group buy has ended. Send us a PM if you have any questions.

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The TyrolSport MCS FMIC provides an excellent balance of performance, design, and installation ease to really enhance your R55/R56/R57 Mini Cooper S. Our intercooler uses a unique thin core design to maximize cooling characteristics. It will yield power gains from 10-18 HP/12- 20 ft lbs torque to the wheels, depending on your level of modifications. Our design has incorporated hundreds of hours of research and development and over a year of vigorous testing on the street, track, and dyno. Our intercooler can be installed in a few hours with basic hand tools and almost no trimming. This intercooler is designed for the enthusiast who does not want to compromise and wants the best product on the market.

Additional features include:

Made in USA
Utilization of factory mounting points
Hundreds of hours of dyno and track testing
One year warranty against product defects



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Our first test was to take our new 2009 R55 Mini Clubman S to the track to really put it through its paces. We used Watkins Glen International in July and August, the most grueling track in the Northeast, at the peak of the summer heat. We realized immediately that the R55/R56/R57 is a fantastic platform for driving on the street, autoX, or track. A combination of firm brakes, excellent transient response, and good power made it very fun to drive.

Without TyrolSport FMIC:


However, within 5 laps we began noticing a drop in power…..where was the 170hp that Mini claims? Lost to the laws of physics appeared to be the answer. The stock intercooler couldn’t keep up with a small turbo spinning its heart out. Here is a video of what we found when analyzing the turbo speed:




All kidding aside, after a few cooldown laps, the power would return, only to be lost again after a couple of hot laps. We were not going to let heatsoak ruin our fun…..we wanted all of the power we paid for all of the time! Now we were on a mission. We went back to the shop and measured the size of the stock intercooler. The actual dimensions are 22” length x 3 3/8” height x 2 ½” wide. This gives us a core volume of 185.625in³. Not enough to prevent heatsoak on an R55/R56/R57 with any amount of modifications.

With TyrolSport FMIC:


TyrolSport has developed an excellent reputation for developing top quality, easy-to-install intercooler replacements for just about every turbocharged VW and Audi from 1998 on. We set to work on improving the intercooler design using our proven methods. Our main goals when designing a new product are to develop a product that is a premier quality, true performance bolt-on. We do not expect our customers to compromise, and we design our products to be the best available for a given application. Our goals for this project followed our standard guidelines when developing an intercooler:

1. Proven horsepower and torque gains vs. the factory intercooler.
2. Use of premier quality bar and plate intercooler cores.
3. Easy to install with minimal trimming and use of factory mounting points.
4. All research and development, prototyping, and manufacturing in the USA.
5. Strong customer support with a product warranty of 12 months/unlimited mileage

Our traditional approach has been to work within the space constraints offered by the factory. We realized immediately that for the Mini, we would have to work hard if we wanted to create a truly exceptional product. We started by test-fitting various core shapes and sizes to understand the optimum intercooler that would fit. After many months of prototyping, shop fitting, dyno and road testing, we finalized a design which produces excellent power, eliminates heatsoak, and is easily installed with almost no trimming.



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The most obvious question that comes to mind is why did we choose to a core with a large face area and thin cross-section? We found that a large face area and thin core worked much better in the Mini versus a smaller, thicker core which would fit in the stock location. We have found that this design not only dissipates heat at an incredible rate but we could not get this intercooler to heat soak. On top of that, the pressure drop is a minute .5@20psi. This intercooler has the perfect volume for an engine which will make anywhere from 220 to 300HP. Another advantage to our intercooler design is that it is a direct bolt-in with extremely minor trimming involved. This intercooler is a true bolt-in design, using the factory mounting points. It can be performed by even a novice enthusiast with basic tools.

TEST CAR
•2008 R56 Mini Cooper S

•6 speed Manual

•Revolution Mini Works Software

•Ragazzon down pipe

•Milltek cat back exhaust

•Alta boost pipes

TEST CAR
•2009 R55 Clubman S

•6 speed Manual w/ factory LSD

•Stock software

•Stock intake/exhaust

TEST CAR
•2009 R55 Clubman S JCW

•6 Speed Manual

•Factory JCW software

•Stock JCW intake & exhaust

For the purpose of the intercooler testing, please remember that the absolute numbers shown on the dyno are not relevant. We are looking for, the deltas, or relative changes in performance that result from upgrading the component. While your R55/R56/R57 MCS may dyno higher or lower than our project car at a different dyno facility, you can expect similar relative gains when adding our UGFMIC kit to your car.

At TyrolSport we are firm believers in back-to-back dyno tests, using the same facility on the same day, so that we can eliminate weather and dyno variance. The testing of both the stock and TyrolSport intercoolers was completed in one day under the following conditions:

1. Get car to operating temperature on the dyno, 100C water temp
2. Make 5 dyno pulls on the stock intercooler with one minute of cooldown between runs.
3. Remove stock intercooler, and bolt on TyrolSport UGFMIC with car still strapped to the dyno
4. Repeat process again for TyrolSport UGFMIC to verify initial runs

•Dyno fans were used on all runs.
•The bumper cover was put in place when testing each intercooler.



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While on the dyno, we data logged RPM, Intake Air Temp, Timing Advance, Boost pressure and Coolant Temp to verify the performance benefits and differences between the two intercoolers. All of the information provided is from real-world testing, with no alterations, tricks or gimmicks.
Installing the TyrolSport UGFMIC showed immediate and clear results. Upon bolt-on, with absolutely no other changes, power increased by 10 WHP over stock on a cold run. With these results from the start we knew this intercooler would be a true performer.. Let’s take a look at the graphs:



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After 5 back-to-back runs you can see the huge amount of heat soak that the stock intercooler exhibits throughout the RPM range. Our test car gained a maximum of 16 WHP, and averaged 14.5 WHP/15.6 WTQ from 2000-6000 RPM. During our testing procedures we want to understand the “whys” and not take an improvement on face value. We want to investigate further and verify that we are gaining power in a safe and repeatable manner. This is why we log the cars data blocks. The primary reason to have an intercooler is to lower the temperature of the compressed air entering the engine. To test this we looked at our logs which we recorded with every dyno run. What we found correlated with the dyno runs:



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This graph demonstrates the actual air intake temperatures during the dyno runs for each intercooler. You can see how the air intake temperature rose dramatically on the stock intercooler after 5000rpm. The stock intercooler could not return to its baseline temperature even with a one minute cooldown. The TyrolSport UGFMIC, however, is able to stay cooler after four back-to-back runs than the stock intercooler after only one run on the dyno. Here is a graph of the above data averaged:



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The average temperature difference is a drastic 25 degrees Celsius, with a maximum difference of 33.5 degree Celsius or anywhere between 77 and 92 degrees Farenheit cooler after four runs.

STREET TESTING
Once our dyno testing was completed, we ran highway data-logging to make sure that the upgraded intercooler exhibited “real-world performance gains”. Again, all of our data was acquired on the same day, in the same exact weather conditions, using the same route of travel. It is always our goal to minimize the variability in testing, to understand the true performance gains (or losses!) of an aftermarket product.



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All runs were done in 3rd gear, starting at 2000rpm, and then going full throttle to 6500. The car was allowed to decelerate in gear until 2000rpm, at which point we went full throttle to 6500rpm again. This process was repeated until four full throttle runs were completed for each intercooler. This would represent real-world acceleration from approximately 35mph to approximately 95mph. The runs were conducted in opposite directions to negate wind direction. We eliminated the first run for consistency. Coolant and Intake Air Temperature were monitored so that it would be the same for each unit at the beginning of the testing. Information from our testing was gained using Bavarian Technic diagnostic software.



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The two main areas which would confirm our data on the dyno are Intake Air Temp and Ignition Timing Advance. Once we logged our runs we sat down and analyzed our findings.
The first thing we will look at is the Intake Air Temp. Our initial tests show the immediate power gain over the stock FMIC.



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When looking at the graphs you can immediately see the increased heat dissipation with the TyrolSport UGFMIC. Also you can see how ignition timing is affected by the intake air temperatures directly. This is where we gained 10 WHP!


The next graph demonstrates how heatsoak affects the power of this car. Immediately the initial punch of the turbo is reduced and the little bit of top end that the car had is also gone. After bolting on the TyrolSport UGFMIC intercooler the power output is not lost after the second third or even fourth run on the car. Here is the graph comparing the fourth “hot” run for each intercooler:




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Along with the Intake Air Temps we looked at Ignition timing advance. The Timing Advance is greater across the board, resulting in more power and efficiency:




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Throughout all of our testing, coolant temps remained comparable to having the stock intercooler in place. The TyrolSport UGFMIC is thin enough to allow adequate airflow to the radiator under all operating conditions.


Installation of the TyrolSport UGFMIC is very straightforward. The kit includes the intercooler and two threaded inserts which are installed in factory holes on the radiator support. There is no trimming required other than removing a two-inch long, 1/16” metal edge on the radiator support. This will take less than 10 minutes with a Dremel.




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Retail price $1095

1-5 units $949 Save $146

6-10 units $899 Save $196

Please be aware that only 10 units will be available at this pricing.

The group buy will terminate on March 31st, or upon the collection of 10 paid deposits.

A deposit of $100 is required to be locked into this group buy.

Please send a PM for deposit inquiries. Questions, feel free to email us at info@tyrolsport.com



A word on quality and pricing:



All TyrolSport products are designed and manufactured in the USA, using domestic materials. Our commitment to you is to provide the best quality, testing, and support for products that provide true performance benefits for your car. We stand by the quality and functionality of our product. We also guarantee our intercoolers against defects for one year with unlimited mileage usage. Our R&D efforts allow us to bring superior products to market which can be appreciated by true enthusiasts. We hope you enjoy your car, and our products. Thank you very much as always for your support, and happy motoring!



Sincerely

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Old 02-21-2011, 11:12 AM
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Lets get this list going! We are currently at the $949 price bracket

1. Punkstalicious
2. Fazagra
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6-10 $899

Thanks again,
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So did anyone actually get one ?
 
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Does it fit a 2011 MCS?
 
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Does this come in a stealth/powder black type finish?

And what's the weight difference between stock or other after market intercoolers?

Thanks!
 
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I don't understand the reference...

to the Alta post that yours in turn quoted. Seems like apples and oranges to this thread, or am I missing some subtext?
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So did anyone actually get one ?
 
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Originally Posted by MP1.6T
to the Alta post that yours in turn quoted. Seems like apples and oranges to this thread, or am I missing some subtext?
That is just part of his signature block, not a response to this thread.
 
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Originally Posted by Melangell
Does it fit a 2011 MCS?
Yes, it will!
 
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Originally Posted by montgod
Does this come in a stealth/powder black type finish?

And what's the weight difference between stock or other after market intercoolers?

Thanks!
We do not offer a stealth/powder black finish. You can paint it black, but it will reduce efficiency.

The weight of our intercooler is 11 lbs, the stock intercooler is 3.5lbs. We are not sure what is the weight of other aftermaket intercoolers but its probably in the range of 10-15 lbs.

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I am very interested in this intercooler, I probably won't make it for this group buy but I hope you keep them as a product.
 
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Do you have any info/charts on the coolant temps between stock and your IC? This is the biggest thing holding back several folks I know, when it comes to this IC. I like the way it looks, and would love to buy one, but I am just curious about the coolant temps during hard loads.

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Part of the function of the coolant temperature sensor is to signal the ignition when to advance or retard depending upon engine temps and power demanded. To answer your question, a spike in coolant temperature would directly create a retardation in the ignition timing to prevent ping and predetonation. This would be present as the ignition curve dropping off at high RPM. Our ignition maps between the stock and TyrolSport intercooler are shown in the last chart in post #1, which show steady gains up to redline.

As our dyno runs were all performed hot with virtually no air flow, temperature indicators such as the ignition curve do not indicate high enough temperatures that will reduce horsepower.

With the car running for 45 minutes at a time on a 90F track, no power was lost nor did we have any cooling issues.



We have video of our Clubman S during testing here:
(mind the sound, very scratchy)
http://www.vimeo.com/13623351



Originally Posted by Laardilla21
Do you have any info/charts on the coolant temps between stock and your IC? This is the biggest thing holding back several folks I know, when it comes to this IC. I like the way it looks, and would love to buy one, but I am just curious about the coolant temps during hard loads.

Thanks!
-Johnny
 

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Would this work on a Cooper D?
 
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Yes, this will fit a Cooper D, however we do not have any testing to support the types of gains you will see, other than the percent change in heat transfer, and the average intake air temperature charts. It will add power and torque, we just do not know how much.

If only we had the Cooper D in the US


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Would this work on a Cooper D?
 
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Thanks for the info!

Also, +1 on the Cooper D.
 
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The group buy has ended!

Email or PM with any questions in regard to payment/deposits/production info.

Emails can be sent to info@tyrolsport.com

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Is new plumbing needed to install a FMIC instead of TMIC??
Is there a kit with bands and tubing available?
 
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Fergy,

It sounds like you may be referencing the intercooler on the R53, which uses a top mount. This is for the R56 (2007+), which I have never seen a top mount for.
New plumbing is not needed. This part is a direct bolt-in fit with all stock hoses and factory mounting points.
Upgraded pipes are available, if you want to eliminate the sound deadening mufflers installed my Mini. NM makes really nice ones

Best bet on this part is to email TyrolSport directly. They could answer more about this part than I can.
 
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Fergy,

It sounds like you may be referencing the intercooler on the R53, which uses a top mount. This is for the R56 (2007+), which I have never seen a top mount for.
New plumbing is not needed. This part is a direct bolt-in fit with all stock hoses and factory mounting points.
Upgraded pipes are available, if you want to eliminate the sound deadening mufflers installed my Mini. NM makes really nice ones

Best bet on this part is to email TyrolSport directly. They could answer more about this part than I can.
Thank you Second to None.
The pictures are of an r53, I am just browsing thinking about what toys can bolt themselves to the gf's r56 mcs when she is not looking...
 
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how's the sale of your front mount? just came across here, hope I was part of the group buy here. Anyway anyone familiar with auto parts warehouse? has anyone tried to purchase here? Im interested to buy the engine mounts I saw here. Just tryin to gather ideas before I have one.
 
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Did anyone ever get one of these/
And are there any chances a group buy will be offered again?
Thanks.
 
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How does the AC work with this monster in front of the condenser ?
 
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