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this has started to happen to me recently, maybe about once every ~week. guess i'll have to read thru this thread...
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I'm assuming you are in the Northern Hemisphere, where it's now summer...
If that's the case, then here is another instance that doesn't support the winter fuel or cold temp theories...
MINI, are you watching? This makes something like the 567th posting on the subject. Ya think there's a problem here?
-B
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Originally Posted by roaduscarnivorous
this has started to happen to me recently, maybe about once every ~week....
Mine is a 06 MC with 1,3000km; every morning when I back out from the drivway, reverse is OK, after I switched from 1st to 2nd gear, I can tell the car seems like a little choke(not shaking but not smooth), it gives me a feeling like you got wake up in the middle of the sleep (brain dead state) . I need to put more gas in order to get out from that stalling state. But afterward the whole day is fine. And I use 91 octane gas. What actually causing this? Makes me wonder...
I've read the first 3 pages but it seems nobody knows the the problem is, and instead of wasting another hour reading the rest of the pages, does anyone know what the solution for this problem is?
I second that! Any conclusions? Same problem with my 03 MCS.
I have an 04 S with 50K on the odometer and never had a stalling issue. I had experienced an eratic idle a few times,Kind of feels like it's searching for the propper rpm range. but a quick blip of the throttle seems to satisfy the problem. Its only happened 3 times in 7 months of owning the car, so I guess i wouldn't label it as a problem.
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If it dosen't come when called I don't see a reason to name it!
I had a similar problem with my 06 about six months after I got it. Unfortunately it required going into the dealer and getting a new load on the computer. I had the engine stall a few times when in lower RPM and usually while turning. Since the new load I have not this problem again.
Good luck!
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Gunner lost but not forgotten (gone to MINI heaven from a sadistic RAM 1500 4X4)
2003 - MCS - 56,000 mi.,
Cold start ONLY in Morning After sitting for 8-10 hrs..
55-60 deg. outdoor temp.
93 Octane Fuel
Cranks and Chugs out, Then on second attempt starts up like normal. No rough idle either...
I would say that either;
The throttle body is not closing up fully first time, or
MAP sensor not woring correctly or,
It is some sort of vapor locking issue.
Now that I think of it, maybe she caught this bug from me. I am the same way in the morning before my first cup of java......
Same exact issue here. Starts up, stutters for a couple of seconds, then stalls. I'll start it again immediately after and it starts up just fine. The car idles/runs fine as well. This only seems to happen on the first start of the day, after sitting overnight.
I have an 04 S with 50K on the odometer and never had a stalling issue. I had experienced an eratic idle a few times,Kind of feels like it's searching for the propper rpm range. but a quick blip of the throttle seems to satisfy the problem. Its only happened 3 times in 7 months of owning the car, so I guess i wouldn't label it as a problem.
I have that problem too, a quick blip on the gas fixes it. One time I let it keep going, it felt like it wanted to stall...
Here in California we've been going through a heat wave. When its hot I'm talking 95dF or more I have start up issues if I just turned it off or it's been sitting.
Also, its stalling in first from a dead stop.
This happened to mine this morning. I just got it back from the dealer for a service/inspection on Saturday. I've only had it a couple weeks, so we'll see if it happens again.
Hi now a have to wellcome my mini to this thread becose my mini starded this sice last week..So this is what i did to trye to find out what was the problem..In the morning you sit in the car and you dont tuch nothing then
you pout the key in and you turn the key 2 noch DONT START THE CAR you will ear the fuel pump DONT START THE CAR...then u do this 1 or 2 time then u start the car.. Mine start like it supose when y do this..IF you trye this and it work come and post you result..now that i tryed this i now that the fuel regulator as to be change it under the intercoller on the fuel rail..the presure drop during the night and that is what i think ..am open to all sugestion on this usue..
MC 2
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"Hi, I now have to welcome my MINI to this thread become my MINI started this problem since last week... So this is what I did to try to find out what was the problem...In the morning you sit in the car and don't touch anything, then you put the key in and you turn the key 2 notches. DON'T START THE CAR, you will hear the fuel pump. DON'T START THE CAR...then you would do this 1 or 2 more times then you can start the car...Mine started like it was suppose to when I do this...IF you tried this method and it works, come and post your results...after trying out this method, I now know that the fuel regulator has to be changed under the intercooler on the fuel rail...I think the pressure drops during the night...but I am open to all suggestions on this issue...
"Hi, I now have to welcome my MINI to this thread become my MINI started this problem since last week... So this is what I did to try to find out what was the problem...In the morning you sit in the car and don't touch anything, then you put the key in and you turn the key 2 notches. DON'T START THE CAR, you will hear the fuel pump. DON'T START THE CAR...then you would do this 1 or 2 more times then you can start the car...Mine started like it was suppose to when I do this...IF you tried this method and it works, come and post your results...after trying out this method, I now know that the fuel regulator has to be changed under the intercooler on the fuel rail...I think the pressure drops during the night...but I am open to all suggestions on this issue...
"Hi, I now have to welcome my MINI to this thread become my MINI started this problem since last week... So this is what I did to try to find out what was the problem...In the morning you sit in the car and don't touch anything, then you put the key in and you turn the key 2 notches. DON'T START THE CAR, you will hear the fuel pump. DON'T START THE CAR...then you would do this 1 or 2 more times then you can start the car...Mine started like it was suppose to when I do this...IF you tried this method and it works, come and post your results...after trying out this method, I now know that the fuel regulator has to be changed under the intercooler on the fuel rail...I think the pressure drops during the night...but I am open to all suggestions on this issue...
MC2"
going to try this tomorrow...
Thanks
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Just an update. This method has had a 100% success rate for me during the past week. Next week, I will alternate between the fire-it-right-up method and this, to make sure it's repeatable.
Bump to try this and post result..Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
Recently, before starting the car, I have done the following:
1) Turn key to ON position for 10 seconds but don't try to start the car
2) Turn key to OFF position
3) Turn key to ON position and start the car
Since the problems only seem to manifest themselves in the morning on the first start of the day, it'll take some time to find out if this really works. But, the past 3 starts have been smooth and successful
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Mini cooper S 2004 ,home made air intaike ,17''x7'' adr interspeed with s3000 nexen tire 215/40/17,15% alta v2 puley,1ball exault.costom maid front spliter .costom maid exault tips.costom made gps stand,moss mini front strut bar..35% tinted window..alta 19 sway bar,shark ecu,oil cacht can..
My '05 S has never had a start problem this time of year [Summer]. The problem revisits when the weather turns cooler -- Fall thru Spring.
-B
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Originally Posted by MC 2
Bump to try this and post result..Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
Recently, before starting the car, I have done the following:
1) Turn key to ON position for 10 seconds but don't try to start the car
2) Turn key to OFF position
3) Turn key to ON position and start the car
Since the problems only seem to manifest themselves in the morning on the first start of the day, it'll take some time to find out if this really works. But, the past 3 starts have been smooth and successful
This is werd the problem was there for 5 or 6 day then it stop..now the car
start just fine ..make me but any adea about the problem.
MC 2
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2001 Mini Cooper, on cold start in the morning the car begins to shiver like its about to die. Never died but its annoying. Second thing after a long trip, if I try to start it again takes 2x times to start. It always starts but takes a little longer.
I use 100 octane fuel (i use to go for the 95) and it resolved half of the problem.
My '05 S has never had a start problem this time of year [Summer]. The problem revisits when the weather turns cooler -- Fall thru Spring.
-B
Agreed, seems to happen when temps fall below 72 degrees or so......soon as temps go back up, to 74, mine gets a hic-up of sorts and starts anyways, and when they get above 74 -78, no problem at all.
Must be somthing is expanding under higher temps, like some electronic circuit boards I have worked on which use attaching screws as part of the boards grounding.
Does this fuel pressure regulator have a ground or any electonics or is it purely mechanical ?
Yes, this happens to me all the time at long stop lights. Starts to rumble mostly, but also stalls much of the time. meh. I guess it doesnt bother me that much.
Ok, this post is in relation to my previous posts in this thread. It seems as though the Dallas dealer did not do anything wrong with my car and it was a fluke coincidence that only a few weeks later I started having another issue. To fix my after start-up stumble I simply needed a reflash of the ECU/DME with the newer software. After that, like I mentioned the car was fixed. However, as I mentioned, I did have worse issues not much later. Upon returning to CA I decided to go to South Bay Mini in Torrance where Stacy helped me out. They did an EXCELLENT job. It took them a little while, but they found out that I had a leaky fuel injector. Thus I was loosing fuel pressure durring start-up and not getting a well atomized spray from the injectors causing my issues. Before this I was trying to do the turn key to position 2 wait 5 sec, turn off and right back on, wait another 5, then start...and it wasn't helping.
I am happy to say that I am free of any start up issues and have been for at least a month now. Thank You Stacy and South Bay Mini!
Wanted to chip in here...I have been having cold start issue for several months (2006 MCSa) - motor would start and then choke and die, sometimes instead of dying, the engine would shake violently and RPM needle go up and down accompanied by EML and check engine lights of course.
I took my car twice to the dealer - first time they told me it was just a loose connector on the engine throttle. The problem went away for couple of weeks and came back again last week. Yesterday I brought it back and was told that the throttle body is faulty and the dealer replaced it.
Happy to report that the problem is gone and the car feels different, starts right away and the old hesitation when starting is gone - hopefully throttle body was the reason...but who knows, time will tell, thanks.
CF Hood,CF Hatch,17% pully, Borla Exhaust (-resonator), CAI, Hot Wires, HR 1.5 Lowering Springs, Strut support bar, short throw shifter, 22mm Rear Sway Bar w/ anodized upper and lower arms, alta adjustable links, Enkie Rims w falken225/45R17's, custom painted graphics
Then on second attempt starts up like normal. No rough idle either...
any adea about the problem.
