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Is this only happening with Manual Coopers?
Does anyone with an Automatic Cooper have this issue?
It is a DME software programming error. Version 44 software is available now, though it has not corrected the problem 100% as it should. The problem lies in the fuel curves when the engine is cold-it runs too rich & bogs down at idle or under throttle. Once the engine has warmed up, it stops running so rich & the fuel curves return to normal. It primarily affects the MCS though the MC has been affected from time to time. I'd recommend (unfortunately) bringing it to the dealer & mentioning those complaints. MINI will pay to have the software updates performed as long as the car is under warranty.
MINI is still developing software for these cars-unfortuately they still haven't come up with a perfect solution, but in the interim a software update will help out. Hope this helps!
Ya know, my '02 use to do the same thing. After I hit a deer in November, had the body work fixed and sent it to MINI of Towsen to have them do some warranty work, it hasn't done it since. Wish I could tell you why. I still have the rough idle issue after I've been sitting at a stop light for a minute though !
I have a 2004 MCS with 16% pulley, Alta intake, Nology HotWires, MSD coil pack, and Denso IK-22s
I have the same problem. The main thing for me is that it doesn't bother me that much normally, but if I rev it when I start in the cold, it's very pronounce after, i.e. it wants to stall and I keep having to rev it until it warms up. If I just start off slowly, it doesn't bother me as much.
I have an '06 MCS....only 3K miles so far & normally...99% of the time you turn the key & fires up quick.....a few times that I have driven short distances, killed it & got back in at does not start immediately...maybe 2-3 tries...always fires up but never had a new car do that!
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Has the cold start stutter/stall being solved by MINI? If so what is the most current ECU firmware update?
If anyone has any info or a copy of a technical service bulletin, it will be much appreciated.
Apparently MINI has solved the problem. My '02 MCS used to do the cold start/stutter/yo-yo/whatever but only after BMW/MINI installed mandatory emissions upgrade to the ECU, after assuring me that it would not cause these issues and informing me that I had NO CHOICE but to have the upgrade installed. Talked about one pi**ed-off customer
I now solved all those problems, I purchased an '06 MCS. After 3,700 smiles there have been NO issues.
Apparently MINI has solved the problem. My '02 MCS used to do the cold start/stutter/yo-yo/whatever but only after BMW/MINI installed mandatory emissions upgrade to the ECU, after assuring me that it would not cause these issues and informing me that I had NO CHOICE but to have the upgrade installed. Talked about one pi**ed-off customer
I now solved all those problems, I purchased an '06 MCS. After 3,700 smiles there have been NO issues.
My '06 MCS, delivered in the end of October, now has this problem. Sometimes when I start it, the engine has a lumpy idle and sounds like it is about to die. I'm not sure if this is related also, but I've also noticed that the car is more hesitant when starting(i.e. - it is taking longer). It just passed it's 7000 mile mark. Any other '06s have this problem?
Some people would complain about reliability, but this is still the better compared to my other car, an Acura TL, or a dressed up Honda Accord. 70,000 miles and two replaced transmissions, the only part of that car that was made in Japan.
I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but has anyone else had problems starting the car in the first place? In my 02 S (36,000mi), the engine occasionally has problems starting when cold. When I turn the key, the motor just won't start. It usually takes 2-3 tries to get it to start. Once the engine is warmed up, it has no problem re-starting. It doesn's stall after being started, it just won't start. What could be causing this problem, and what can I do to fix it?
Thanks, I'll look into that. I bought my car used, so I cannot account for everything that has (or has not) been done. Unfortunately the nearest dealer is 2.5 hours away, so I'll have to wait until my next service to do anything about this.
i dont know if this question has been answered and i really dont know much about engines .. im interested in getting a regular '06 mini cooper .. should i expect to have these stalling problems?
My '06 MCS, delivered in the end of October, now has this problem. Sometimes when I start it, the engine has a lumpy idle and sounds like it is about to die. I'm not sure if this is related also, but I've also noticed that the car is more hesitant when starting(i.e. - it is taking longer). It just passed it's 7000 mile mark. Any other '06s have this problem?
Picked up my 2006 MCSC Feb. 10 2006, now have cold starting problem two days in a row. I have about 5500 miles. I was freakin out with the dragon next week, but I at least feel better that it's not a serious problem. Still, never had such a new car with this kind of problem
shoeboy that problem I believe was fixed with a software update a log time ago from MINI. If your car hasn't gotten it then it could use it!
Wow... so it's still a problem with the new ones? Good job, MINIUSA
My '03 MCS with 57K STILL needs to be cranked twice at times -- after many, many reflashes. I probably posted this earlier (say around page 5 or 6 ) but the problem for me tends to be temperature related. It seems that some sort of voodoo takes hold on damp-ish mornings around 50 degrees or so.
Aside from general neighborhood embarassment, it hasn't caused any problems with my car -- so I wouldn't worry. I think I've officially accepted it as a "characteristic".
Kinda funny that it's still an issue...
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Apparently MINI has solved the problem. My '02 MCS used to do the cold start/stutter/yo-yo/whatever but only after BMW/MINI installed mandatory emissions upgrade to the ECU, after assuring me that it would not cause these issues and informing me that I had NO CHOICE but to have the upgrade installed. Talked about one pi**ed-off customer
Same issue with my '03. I had no problems at all until I had to have the emissions upgrade. Now I have to start twice in the morning and also I have the big hesitation until its warmed up.:impatient
This is still an issue with my "05". It started up again as soon as the Temp warmed up. Tarzan had his "05" in last Fall for some extensive service on this. The dealer said there was some fuel excess issue but I do not believe there was a fix.
05 cooper has this problem occasionally. i noticed it only will happen on a tank of gas below half way. i also noticed that it takes a few more cranks to start it below half a tank.
i always thought this was just a way for the car to warn you that you are going to be getting more gas soon. hondas always did this, everyone i have driven. i am sure its the fuel pump working harder with lower gas in the tank.
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my car just started doing it but as defy said the couple times it did it it was near the quarter tank left mark. i just got off of an accord and never had this problem and its honda then again it was pretty new, personally as long as im not stranded and its not putting any major wear on the car i really dont care, ive learned just to give it a bit of gas at startup and it seems to make throughthe stall
seem to have the same problem here '06 cooper s convertible picked it late dec '05 have about 5600 miles going to nearest dealership in Albq. this weeekend will post on what was done or not done.
Wish I could tell you why. I still have the rough idle issue after I've been sitting at a stop light for a minute though
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Any other '06s have this problem?
Thank you COOPERation!
) but the problem for me tends to be temperature related. It seems that some sort of voodoo takes hold on damp-ish mornings around 50 degrees or so. 
