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Best value water pump brand for replacement?

Hi all, I'm new to the forum, and I'm also the "new" owner of a 2009 Mini Cooper S with 94K miles that needs a new water pump. Can anyone give some good insight into what brand of water pump I should be looking at that balances quality for value? I've seen replacements from Saleri, Graf, Bosch, ect.

Also, is there anything I should absolutely get changed while my mechanic is changing the water pump? I doubt the old owner from NYC had much serviced.
 
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Anyone have any input? I'm trying to order the new water pump today
 
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Used the Graf and Hepu, no issues other then all the aftermarket ones have a longer main shaft which requires to move the engine bit to fit the pulley over the outside for the extra length. I just comes down to price, all of our have the metal outside, so you are good. " Just have to nug the engine over a hair more because its tight up against the back side wall. If you can replace the pump in general you can do this job. "

Tad longer shaft.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ent-guide.html

The older ones have a plastic housing.


Here is a good DIY:

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Originally Posted by BBurket3
Anyone have any input? I'm trying to order the new water pump today
Here are some good options for you. I'd stick with Genuine or OEM.

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Thanks for the insight! Luccia, I was actually trying to buy the Saleri pump from you last night, but it's been out of stock. Great timing.
 
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Thanks for the insight! Luccia, I was actually trying to buy the Saleri pump from you last night, but it's been out of stock. Great timing.
You're very welcome. This one was out of stock? Says we have 32 in stock. If you need help with the order, if you're still needing it, please let me know.

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You're very welcome. This one was out of stock? Says we have 32 in stock. If you need help with the order, if you're still needing it, please let me know.

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Yes, that one was out of stock the last few days, but I just picked one up. Thanks! Do you happen to know if the Saleri has the slightly longer shaft issue that the aftermarket replacements have?
 
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Yes, that one was out of stock the last few days, but I just picked one up. Thanks! Do you happen to know if the Saleri has the slightly longer shaft issue that the aftermarket replacements have?
No problem! The Saleri is the OEM supplier, it would be the best fit and quality in my books. I have a done a few and do not recall having an issue like the aftermarket replacements. If you run into an issue please let me know.

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I would just check the Saleri BBurket3 , on as all the aftermarket ones we have same thing. I done a bunch of them. We were the first to find this issue.
 
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I only use the OES MINI water pumps. The newest version is all aluminum now so the plastic is gone and they have a 2yr warranty. If it fails MINI does the labor, and pays the parts so it's hard to beat.

http://www.waymotorworks.com/water-p...8-r59-r60.html

I don't use the aftermarkets in the shop as I've been burnt too many times. Doing that job again cause it leaks is too big a loss to risk. And like you asked some of them have the longer shaft making it much harder to install. One time I had to grind one down to get it installed.
 
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I only use the OES MINI water pumps. The newest version is all aluminum now so the plastic is gone and they have a 2yr warranty. If it fails MINI does the labor, and pays the parts so it's hard to beat.

http://www.waymotorworks.com/water-p...8-r59-r60.html

I don't use the aftermarkets in the shop as I've been burnt too many times. Doing that job again cause it leaks is too big a loss to risk. And like you asked some of them have the longer shaft making it much harder to install. One time I had to grind one down to get it installed.
MINI will pay for the labor? That doesn't sounds like them Does that only apply if a MINI dealer does the install?
 
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Think it means if a MINI dealership installs it with a Genuine MINI part ?
 
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Originally Posted by BBurket3
MINI will pay for the labor? That doesn't sounds like them Does that only apply if a MINI dealer does the install?
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Think it means if a MINI dealership installs it with a Genuine MINI part ?
When my water pump prematurely died the dealer was willing to replace it parts and labor if I could prove that the pump was purchased from a Mini dealer, found out it wasn't so tough luck. The strange thing is even if it's install by someone else, if you can prove you bought it from a Mini dealer they will replace it for you. I still don't believe it, if it sounds too good to be true...
 
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Just an upate:

We just received the Febi / Bilstein version in ( made in Italy also ) and its contains a outside shorter rod on the impeller just like Genuine MINI, also the impeller is metal ( vs the plastic composite ). And Metal housing.

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Originally Posted by BBurket3
MINI will pay for the labor? That doesn't sounds like them Does that only apply if a MINI dealer does the install?
MINI will do the labor and the part if the new MINI part fails.
Doesn't matter who installs the part as long as it is installed correctly and isn't a failure due to incorrect install.
 
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MINI will do the labor and the part if the new MINI part fails.
Doesn't matter who installs the part as long as it is installed correctly and isn't a failure due to incorrect install.
Do other car manufactures do this, of all the dealers why Mini?
 
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Do other car manufactures do this, of all the dealers why Mini?
BMW does, but don't know of any others.
 
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Quick question for you all. Getting my timing chain replaced (surprise...NOT) so wondering if I should just change the water pump while I'm getting this done. I haven't noticed any problems, but might as well kill two birds with one stone kind of thing. Thoughts? Thanks for the help.
 
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I would if its the plastic housing one, quick check on the bottom side near the drive belts. To see if you have the old black plastic housing design that cracks. My plastic one on my R56 leaked at the bottom and the metal one has been going strong.
 
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Originally Posted by MC69
Quick question for you all. Getting my timing chain replaced (surprise...NOT) so wondering if I should just change the water pump while I'm getting this done. I haven't noticed any problems, but might as well kill two birds with one stone kind of thing. Thoughts? Thanks for the help.
I'm not big on replacing most things just because. The water pump and timing cassettes are two separate jobs, and would probably be billed as such so not much time or money savings there. If the pump is leaking or suspect of leaking by all means I would jump on it before it leaves you stranded, but start with checking to see if it's been done yet (alloy housings are the newest design).
 
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