Stock Problems/Issues Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

Oil Leak

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 10-18-2014, 04:09 PM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Power Steering Fluid Leak

I stopped driving the MINI a few months ago. <br />
Here is a picture of the oil puddle that was formed. <br />
The reason it is two areas is because I rolled it back a month or so ago to hopefully keep the tires from having flat spots.<br />
Any idea what would be leaking from the picture?
 
Attached Thumbnails Oil Leak-tmp_13205-20141018_150323206288507.jpg  

Last edited by godzilla; 10-23-2014 at 07:02 PM.
  #2  
Old 10-18-2014, 10:35 PM
Eric_Rowland's Avatar
Eric_Rowland
Eric_Rowland is offline
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
Posts: 13,374
Received 43 Likes on 38 Posts
Much easier to diagnose and oil leak from the stains/tracks on the car.
 
  #3  
Old 10-20-2014, 05:54 AM
jamez's Avatar
jamez
jamez is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Stoney Creek, Ontario
Posts: 962
Received 34 Likes on 26 Posts
Sweet geezzus!

The VOLUME of fluid is what gets me (when it was stored!), was the engine cycled at any point (putting pressure back onto the leaks)?

If I'm reading correctly, it sounds like there are two separate spills involved in that image (and that the car was rolled back towards the top of the image). Without knowing the location of the car relative to the spills and angle of the floor, it's hard to say if it's from the front, back or everywhere on the engine - you'll have to get underneath.

With that much leaking, you'll have to clean the engine and then keep an eye out for where it comes from.


Lots of possibilities:
  • Valve Cover (unlikely it with that much volume when stored)
  • Oil Pan gasket (possible with that distribution)
  • Rear Main Seal (probable but with that volume - be careful of destroying your clutch)
  • Crank Position Sensor (likely, but not to that extent)
  • Bedplate seal (really doubt that it's this one, but I've seen & documented it)
 
  #4  
Old 10-23-2014, 04:14 PM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The oil was very thick and kind of gummy on the floor.
 
  #5  
Old 10-23-2014, 05:20 PM
jcauseyfd's Avatar
jcauseyfd
jcauseyfd is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Graham, NC
Posts: 2,358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Wow. I have nothing to help as I have a 2nd gen. I thought my oil leak was bad, but now I don't feel so bad. Hope you can get it figured out.
 
  #6  
Old 10-23-2014, 07:01 PM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It is the CHF11S power steering fluid. The resovoir is empty. I believe there is a recall on this isn't there?
 
  #7  
Old 10-24-2014, 06:37 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is online now
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,792
Received 1,965 Likes on 1,765 Posts
Not on the lines, just the pump and fan if it fails up to early 2005 model year. Check your production date.

The lines we have here, check and inspect the lines.

Everything is linked in the thread below with parts and locations.

Then if not we have linked the parts in this thread. Most likely its just the lines

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-problems.html










And the lines.

P/S lines

http://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_R50_R52_r53_Cooper_Base_S_JCW_PS_Line_repair_ kit_2002_2003_2004_2005_2006_2007_2008/




Here is the DIY thread with pics.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...hose-pics.html




Thanks
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
  #8  
Old 10-28-2014, 06:03 PM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for all the info. Mine is a 2003 MCS.
So if I take it in for this problem they will not replace any of these parts for free except the pump and fan?
 
  #9  
Old 11-04-2014, 06:03 AM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I haven't had time to do any work on it yet.
What do you think from these pictures?
 
Attached Thumbnails Oil Leak-dscf8665.jpg   Oil Leak-dscf8666.jpg  
  #10  
Old 11-04-2014, 06:21 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is online now
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,792
Received 1,965 Likes on 1,765 Posts
Clean the outside of the reservoir off and make sure you don't over fill it, CHF 11s , looks like overflow or the seal on the cap is bad to have that much, I can only see the top of the one line and it looks to have minimal seepage. Its the lines towards the bottom at the crimp connections and band clamps. Also when you clean the container and cap off don't get any junk in the reservoir , keep things clean. Then see what you find at the top. But most likely its the bottom lines.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
  #11  
Old 11-04-2014, 08:45 AM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I guess there's no way for me to check to see if the pump is good until I replace those lines?
 
  #12  
Old 11-04-2014, 08:53 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is online now
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,792
Received 1,965 Likes on 1,765 Posts
The pump will work , but has to have enough fluid. You have to determine A: is it the lines and is it leaking enough not to give the pump the CHF fluid. I would get the lines fixed and pinpoint it is the lines. Put it on a rack and inspect , use those linked pics on the DIY lines to determine if its both , on or another, most people replace both in that kit at the same time. If the pump fluid is low you will hear it ( growling ) and the steering will be on and off. Working , then not, then working. That's a bunch of fluid leaking. I hope the pump itself is not leaking.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
  #13  
Old 01-01-2015, 02:04 PM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I ordered your kit and am finally getting around to replacing these lines but I don't see any info on how much to tighten the banjo bolt and how much to squeeze the hose clamps.
and how can I reach the banjo bolt? take off the driver's side wheel and the plastic in the wheel well?
 

Last edited by godzilla; 01-01-2015 at 02:40 PM.
  #14  
Old 01-08-2015, 10:34 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is online now
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,792
Received 1,965 Likes on 1,765 Posts
Crimp those hose clamps, crimp them to the same amount as the old ones, I did mine a hair tighter. And the banjo is 30 ft. lbs .
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
  #15  
Old 01-08-2015, 05:49 PM
godzilla's Avatar
godzilla
godzilla is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GA
Posts: 274
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What's the easiest way to access the banjo bolt?
 
  #16  
Old 01-09-2015, 07:32 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is online now
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,792
Received 1,965 Likes on 1,765 Posts
Driver side wheel well or from the back of the rear lower sub-frame when on the lift.

Good luck.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
  #17  
Old 01-09-2015, 01:43 PM
nkfry's Avatar
nkfry
nkfry is offline
Vendor - Detroit Tuned 15 Years
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Clawson, MI
Posts: 1,859
Likes: 0
Received 33 Likes on 32 Posts
Originally Posted by godzilla
I ordered your kit and am finally getting around to replacing these lines but I don't see any info on how much to tighten the banjo bolt and how much to squeeze the hose clamps.
and how can I reach the banjo bolt? take off the driver's side wheel and the plastic in the wheel well?
Those factory crimp clamps are garbage, I would recommend replacing them with #10 hose clamps from any auto store. Those crimp style clamps will leak over time, same as your factory ones did. Whenever we have a car come into the shop that hasn't had those clamps replaced we take the time to do it.
 
__________________
https://www.northamericanmotoring.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic151635_2.gif
MINI Specialists * Parts * Performance * Service
Phone:586-792-6464
Info@DetroitTuned.com
Nick@DetroitTuned.com

Last edited by nkfry; 01-09-2015 at 02:33 PM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
woodstudio
General MINI Talk
22
03-15-2020 08:28 AM
SheldonCooperS
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
2
08-25-2015 11:57 AM
ShadyCoop
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
14
08-24-2015 06:05 AM
Laura Redd Casler
R52 :: Cabrio Talk (2005-2008)
2
08-15-2015 09:32 PM
azntaiji
1st Gear
7
08-13-2015 03:24 PM



Quick Reply: Oil Leak



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:48 PM.