MINI has issued campaign/recall to replace timing chains!
#76
Update: Mini will cover the full cassette replacement (parts & labor). My wife dealt with them so I don't know details regarding the warranty extension/campaign/whatever. But it appears the guy had to clear the repair with MINI and "was able to convince them." The low mileage in our car seems to have helped quite a bit.
That said, as you can imagine from being the only Mini dealer in Boston, Herb Chambers was VERY well aware of this chronic issue.
We might get the car back as early as tomorrow.
That said, as you can imagine from being the only Mini dealer in Boston, Herb Chambers was VERY well aware of this chronic issue.
We might get the car back as early as tomorrow.
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#81
We are fortunate that we don't drive the car much and that at out current use of about 3k miles a year, this fix, even if the design is still flawed, may still last a over a decade. I haven't gone through the replacement parts to see if they are "new and improved," but I posted them in case one of you wanted to.
If this doesn't get resolved, it makes one wonder what will be of the resale value when these cars are 10-12 years old and they aren't worth very much and how many people who know about it will put them up for sale at the first sign of the rattle or out-of-spec chain slack. It may already be happening.
#82
I agree. I mean, obviously I'm glad they fixed being nearly 2 years out of warranty. To be clear, in addition to the low mileage, my wife's car is also a very late '07, with production of 10/2007. Also, I don't know how much it played a role, but they asked for and I submitted receipts for purchases of OEM filters and 0W-40 Mobil1. The SA seemed to suggest they would want to know if oil changes were performed on schedule.
We are fortunate that we don't drive the car much and that at out current use of about 3k miles a year, this fix, even if the design is still flawed, may still last a over a decade. I haven't gone through the replacement parts to see if they are "new and improved," but I posted them in case one of you wanted to.
If this doesn't get resolved, it makes one wonder what will be of the resale value when these cars are 10-12 years old and they aren't worth very much and how many people who know about it will put them up for sale at the first sign of the rattle or out-of-spec chain slack. It may already be happening.
We are fortunate that we don't drive the car much and that at out current use of about 3k miles a year, this fix, even if the design is still flawed, may still last a over a decade. I haven't gone through the replacement parts to see if they are "new and improved," but I posted them in case one of you wanted to.
If this doesn't get resolved, it makes one wonder what will be of the resale value when these cars are 10-12 years old and they aren't worth very much and how many people who know about it will put them up for sale at the first sign of the rattle or out-of-spec chain slack. It may already be happening.
#83
Btw, i need to replace everything.... On my own, no recall here in Hungary. Also need to deal with carbon build up. Approx cost.: 1600 usd
#84
So I brought my Mini into the dealership today (Mini of Palm Harbor, FL) and let them know the issue and that I have gotten word of a possible good will/warranty extension of the timing chain and left it with them.
I received a call later this afternoon and they did find issues with the timing chain and they are currently contacting MINI about a "good will" replacement, and will let me know by Monday.
Hopefully that will go through and it will all get covered.
Ill post an update once I hear anything new.
I received a call later this afternoon and they did find issues with the timing chain and they are currently contacting MINI about a "good will" replacement, and will let me know by Monday.
Hopefully that will go through and it will all get covered.
Ill post an update once I hear anything new.
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#88
The timing chain issues still occur even with 2011-2012 models! It's not like the timing chains are that much different.
#89
Originally Posted by systemlord
The timing chain issues still occur even with 2011-2012 models! It's not like the timing chains are that much different.
http://new.minimania.com/part/G2NMK3...ER-S-2007-2010
#90
Or not.. since thats about when the N18 engine was rolled out.
Um, yea, they are quite different. The N18 head has dual VANOS.
http://new.minimania.com/part/G2NMK3...ER-S-2007-2010
Um, yea, they are quite different. The N18 head has dual VANOS.
http://new.minimania.com/part/G2NMK3...ER-S-2007-2010
Well I dont have a N18 engine and I wouldn't be covered according to them.
#91
Or not.. since thats about when the N18 engine was rolled out.
Um, yea, they are quite different. The N18 head has dual VANOS.
http://new.minimania.com/part/G2NMK3...ER-S-2007-2010
#92
Just a heads up.. after a visit to the dealer today.. and talking to my tech friend..
There will be a recall/campaign. Mini/BMW is sourcing updated parts for all dealers before said campaign will commence. Because its almost half a million cars around the world.
Its going to be for all n12/14 cars. 2007-2010 MYs.
There will be a recall/campaign. Mini/BMW is sourcing updated parts for all dealers before said campaign will commence. Because its almost half a million cars around the world.
Its going to be for all n12/14 cars. 2007-2010 MYs.
#93
Just a heads up.. after a visit to the dealer today.. and talking to my tech friend..
There will be a recall/campaign. Mini/BMW is sourcing updated parts for all dealers before said campaign will commence. Because its almost half a million cars around the world.
Its going to be for all n12/14 cars. 2007-2010 MYs.
There will be a recall/campaign. Mini/BMW is sourcing updated parts for all dealers before said campaign will commence. Because its almost half a million cars around the world.
Its going to be for all n12/14 cars. 2007-2010 MYs.
awesome update, thank you for that - since this is a recall, it doesn't matter if you aren't the original owner of the car, correct?
#94
BTW: As a 'second owner', you can/should register your car with MINI USA as the new owner so you get notifications of recalls.
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#99
Called my dealer today (Markel MINI of Omaha) and got this for an answer: "We have a notice of an upcoming recall in the system, but if you know what it's for, you know more than us at this time. All it shows is a pending recall, not yet active, take no action at this time". He said that usually means the manufacturer is gathering and distributing parts. He said if the recall was put into effect this month, it could be 2 or 3 more months before they have the parts on had and are cleared for doing recall work.
Basically he said "Make sure your oil level is correct, even a slight dip in oil level could cause the cold start up noise" to basically nullify me until the recall, IF it even comes out before my issue becomes detrimental.......
Sounds like I'll be buying and installing the longer tensioner and hoping that's all I need at this time.
Basically he said "Make sure your oil level is correct, even a slight dip in oil level could cause the cold start up noise" to basically nullify me until the recall, IF it even comes out before my issue becomes detrimental.......
Sounds like I'll be buying and installing the longer tensioner and hoping that's all I need at this time.
#100
Nope, nothing missed. Word is the updated head design of the N18 also led to an updated and better chain design... at least.. at the dealers they are not seeing N18s with chain issues.