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^ Have the dealer measure your timing chain....I am assuming the 2012s have a chain, I think someone mentioned that Mini/Peugeot, was going to a belt, or changed the design. Maybe someone can comment on that.
Ours was making the same noise. Took it in and the replaced everything. Now it's very quiet and running smooth. The timing chain was 70.2mm FTR
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Yes they still have a timing chain although I saw some comments about MINI "might" have made a small re-design on the revised engine (my JCW has the previous design). Will see what the dealership says... Other than the noise the car runs great - I just don't want to deal with a major engine failure and deal with warranty repairs, loaner for a week, etc.
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Hello,
I am negotiating the purchase of a '10 Clubman S. I have learned from the dealer that the timing chain was just replaced in Nov-11. The Mini dealer was not too forthcoming considering I am not the registered owner of the car but when I asked if it was the tensioners, guides, and/or chain which was replaced he said it was the "whole assembly". I don't know if this means the full SIM110207 or not but I presume so. Besides this issue the CarFax indicates all scheduled maintenance was performed, and the Mini dealer did not report any visits other than those for normal maintenance. The car is still under warranty as it has only 26K miles on it. I am happy with the condition and the price I've negotiated but I am cautious because of this timing chain replacement. From the survey it appears most people have the problem fixed permanently when this work is done, although about 20% say the problem comes back afterwards. I would appreciate some input from those who've had this issue:
--does the fact that this car needed this work indicate that other related problems might surface down the road? In other words, should I avoid the car?
-- or should I be happy that the problem was found and fixed, and be relatively comfortable going forward (or as comfortable as you can be considering...)?
My experience after about a year with total assembly getting replaced is that it fixed the problem. But I also caved and bought the extended warranty and extended service package. I was told that when the tension issue is addressed as mine was, it is resolved. That has been true for me.
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I've had mine replaced, the entire thing, chain, guide, tensioner bolt, sprocket, etc. It's only been 2 months but everything is fine now and my SA said they have not had one come back in the past 2 years. I trust my dealership, they've always been up front with me. They even fixed mine and the car was out of warranty. I also had the thermostat replaced. I bought my car back in August used. It now has 63,000 miles on it.
That's all I've had done and it drives great. I love it. I would say from everything I've read Mini's are a little touchy but well worth it.
I don't regret buying it.
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I could hear the squeal in the vid. I'd like to hear the diagnosis. Mine only gives a short squeak on shut-off, but I haven't taken it in yet. Was the bonnet closed? Hard to tell in the vid. You should hear some diesel-esque ticking even with the bonnet closed and in the cabin, but that did sound awfully loud. However, I was wondering if you had the mic close to the valves.
The squeal while engine running and the occasional quick squeak when shutting off the engine have gone for the last week or so. Go figure. Maybe it was the rather extreme cold weather we were experiencing.
The ticking noises are still present when cold, not so much when warm. Sometimes the ticking almost completely goes away then returns a few seconds later. Some new videos will be posted below - looking for opinions if I should bother seeing the dealership on Monday or just wait it out. Ideally I would rather not see the dealership. Right now I just think I am being paranoid because my last MINI was leased and I didn't care too much.
To me it does sound like the tensioner issue. Most of the noise should be coming from the curved shroud on the passenger side of the motor. Lifters are noisey and possibly alot of it could be the injectors. Listen closer to the left (passenger side) where the curved shroud is that's where your timing chain is located.
Hopefully, I'm wrong. I'd still take it in and let the SA listen to it.
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My 2008 R56 just had tensioner and hydraulic piston #3 installed last month, along with a number of other repairs for oil leaks, ect. While the replacement helped part of the noises, I still hear the same metallic clatter/rattle from my car that I hear in your video (not the rhythmic pssh, pshh of the injectors, but the non rhythmic- tap, tap tap tap- metal on metal clattering). I can only assume that it is coming from the chain itself- and that it has streched (again)! It required numerous visits and a MINI Engineer to verify/ identify the problems this last time. The noises have been very noticeable to me for at least 6 months this time (dealer called the engine noise normal).
I live in Houston, TX- extreme cold is not a factor here.
There must be an underlying problem causing this to happen repeatedly, although no one has really been clear on whether they know what the problem is, or whether it is a total mystery to them.
My R56 has experienced far more problems than anyone else I've heard about- some common issues, some uncommon- all frustrating. MINI has finally agreed to repurchase my vehicle, so I will likely never know what the full scope of the problems are.
I just had my entire timing assembly replaced under warrenty. I took the car in for the cold start noise and an oil leak that both ended up being the tensioner and I had the window sensor issue too. Since the chain had stretched they just did a full replacement. The whole thing took less than a day and they game me an awesome 2012 Countryman S to drive as a loaner. I feel bad for everyone on here who has had bad dealer experiences. I went to Mini of Pittsburgh and couldn't be happier with their service. They fit me right in and did everything I could have asked for. They even detailed the car inside and out without me asking. They are just a great dealership to deal with. However, as great as they are I hope I don't make a habit of visiting them. Happy motoring!
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To me it does sound like the tensioner issue. Most of the noise should be coming from the curved shroud on the passenger side of the motor. Lifters are noisey and possibly alot of it could be the injectors. Listen closer to the left (passenger side) where the curved shroud is that's where your timing chain is located.
Hopefully, I'm wrong. I'd still take it in and let the SA listen to it.
The squeal and the loud ticking have gone away for whatever reason so I delayed my appointment for a while. I am back to the usual lifters/injector noises.
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I have an service appointment this Thursday for a slight timing chain rattle at start up but I can really hear it mostly after the engine is nice and warm at about 1800 to 2000 rpm. I hope my dealer does me right and doesn't give me some lame excuse that it's normal or oil was low or the stars were aligned just right...
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2007 Cooper S. NM CAI, NM titanium turbo heat shield, 3rd brake pulsar, Zimmerman cross drilled rotors, EBC redstuff brake pads, H Sport rear sway bar, Enkei 16X7 WMD wheels, Yokohama S drives 205/50r/16 shoes, BSH OCC, Forge BOV kit, boost tap. MiniMania alloy upper strut brace, Z series adjustable antenna. Sparkling silver with flat black stripes, limo tint. Blackjack union mirror covers, skuttles, and door handles.
Right now I just think I am being paranoid because my last MINI was leased and I didn't care too much.
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