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Has anyone else had trouble starting a MCS after cooling off overnight. The dealer says that some of the software used on MCS delivered ~ 2 mos. ago had an issue. I did not have any problems for the first 1500 miles.
first yes, i have cold start issues, but i belive it may be caused from the mini being on a slight incline (the driveway), which can drain the fuel system, usually it turns over the second time, but weird none the less. also i rate the ac poor. i just drove in a new hyundai elantra and that ac blew the mini out of the water, but i still love the mini overall.
the fuel system should remain pressurized overnight. I have the same problems. It always starts on the second crank, but it chugs away on the first. My A/C works well, but first turn on the recirculating switch.
I'm wondering if our MINI representative can comment on this and if this is going to be corrected. Also, why isn't the AC cold enough to hang beef? I'm coming from a vehicle with no AC (since 1998) and darn well want a nice AC system. Thanks MINI, if you can respond.
I have been having the same problem starting my car in the cold mornings. I have had my Cooper S in the shop 4 times now. The have sent the DME out once, that solved the 4-6 times before starting problem, now my MCS will only start on the second try. They have replaced both fuel pumps, file pressure regulator, and fuel filter but it still will not fire up on the first try in the cold mornings. Winter is coming shortly and I’m starting to get very worried. Colorado can get pretty cold….. Is this a problem that we MCS owners will have to just deal with??? Does anyone else have a solution that my dealership has no idea about?
Dealers in MA are waiting for software, version 3.1, which is supposed to fix this problem. They state that this has been an issue with all MCS sold here. BMW says that anyone with this problem is an isolated incident.
My MCS almost always starts on the second try (sometimes the first). Since it has been very warm in Nothern California, about 60 degrees in my garage in the morning, I don't believe it's temperature related.
Does this happen to anyone with the Cooper? My Cooper sometimes starts on the 2nd try on cold mornings and will stumble while driving in the first block and almost stall. I have to stop and rev it up. A few times when warm I've had it stall on me completely. Just revved it up like I was going to take off, then traffic stopped again and it stalled when I pushed in the clutch and as the revs fell. Embarrassing that I have to restart a brand new car.
I just got back from the Dealership and they are now going to order me a new control module. So once I get that back I will let you all know if that was the problem...... :???:
i've had mine about three weeks, 1,300 miles and no start problems. It's been getting down around 50 degree at night so I suppose if it was going to have any problems it would be having them now.
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No issues, MCS, Pure silver,DOB,08,02. Everything works great! Purchased in Pennsylvania, dealer spent two hours with me explaning the car top to bottom before he let me leave the showroom! Concerning the cold start issue, does everyone with a stick know that you must engage the clutch in order to start the engine?
I have 1200 miles on my MCS. Yes to cold start problems. Sometimes grabs on the second crank. More often it takes 4 or 5 attempts. BMW told me they are waiting for software when I tried to schedule maintenance for this problem... :evil:
"S" model. Usually starts second crank. Dealer assured me new software will fix problem with fuel pump. Until then, I'm loving this machine. 3500 miles and still screaming...(only one ticket, so far...)
My MCS also has cronic cold start problems. Every morning I have to turn the electrical on and let it "warm up" before I turn it over. This usually means it will start on the second try.
My MINI is at the dealership now and this was one of the problems I brought up. They're telling me they cannot reproduce it! Come ON! It was happening every time I tried to start it in the morning.
If they don't have this fixed by the time I pick it up I'm going to be raising a stink.
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Someone posted this suggestion a while ago, but try putting your key in position 2 (I think...) for 5 to 10 seconds... this should build the pressure back up...
>>Dealers in MA are waiting for software, version 3.1, which is supposed to fix this problem. They state that this has been an issue with all MCS sold here. BMW says that anyone with this problem is an isolated incident.
mine started first time until around 3,500 miles. it wasn't temp. related, I don't think. Now it takes 2 tries, sometimes 3. I've always let the system coordinate for about 6-10 seconds anyway, from new, before starting.
I was at the dealership today talking with the service tech. They are aware of the problem they are waiting for the software upgrade. They called BMW and they said it had been shipped to the dealership. The tech was wondering if it was sent on the back of a snail cuz she still doesn't have it. She's been told that the dealerships on the East Coast already have the software.
When I lived at sea level it woul take two tries to start the engine, now that I am a mile high it sometimes takes SIX! Most of the time it takes four. I hope the software arrives soon.
Mine is doing it now. Started perfectly for the first 500 miles, now in the past 350 miles it seems to be getting worse, sometimes taking 4 tries. I am eager to hear from someone who has had the update done.
I had the software upgrade done in Denver it fixed the 4-6 times. Now it is starting on the second try and even sometimes on the first try. I have had every fuel related part replaced but still no luck. Still waiting for my Control unit, should be in on 10-02-02. I will keep you all posted. If your cars are not starting up on the first try take it in to the dealer ship and have them send in you DME. My tech guy said that the reprogramming should solve 90% of the MCS with the cold start issue.
OK, whats an "EMU"? When I brought my MCS in for it's first service and complained about the cold start issue they replaced the EMU?
Whatever they did it fixed the problem. It starts the first time, every time.
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MMC# 91
MINIUSA ID: MOTO 492
>>Concerning the cold start issue, does everyone with a stick know that you must engage the clutch in order to start the engine?
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Just took my MCS to the dealership where they reprogrammed the DME (what does this stand for, by the way? After 3 days without my Ollie I was too frazzled to remember to ask for such details ). It was reprogrammed because of the cold start problem and the accompanying stumble engaging 1st and lurching while in first. Anyway, I picked him up (happiness is a returned MINI) and now I SWEAR the engagement stumble is worse. Since I was driving my mothers ancient Saturn while he was in the shop (automatic) I am giving it a few days to get reacquainted with the clutch. But I was just wondering if anyone else had experienced this decline in performance. His acceleration post-stumble is FAR better, but I'm annoyed by the tripping. Any thoughts?
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