Bonnet Heat/Deformed Scoop
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#180
The MINI enthusiast shall not yield to pain brought forth by second degree burns on thine hands. They shall not yelp when branded by thine exhaust tips. These are rites of passage that any true motorist shall take in stride as part of the pursuit of pure motoring.
We are melted, we are blistered, we are branded.
We are MINI.
#181
The MINI enthusiast shall not yield to pain brought forth by second degree burns on thine hands. They shall not yelp when branded by thine exhaust tips. These are rites of passage that any true motorist shall take in stride as part of the pursuit of pure motoring.
We are melted, we are blistered, we are branded.
We are MINI.
We are melted, we are blistered, we are branded.
We are MINI.
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#185
Jinxy,
Your thread is getting really messy over there, not much different than other threads. Please update the first post with the first line stating for only reports is meant to be posted and a link to this discussion along with it. If you see my post, it would be nice if everyone followed the same format, with reports of problems and actions taken, all with dates accompanying it.
Your thread is getting really messy over there, not much different than other threads. Please update the first post with the first line stating for only reports is meant to be posted and a link to this discussion along with it. If you see my post, it would be nice if everyone followed the same format, with reports of problems and actions taken, all with dates accompanying it.
#186
I think these IR scanners belong in the wife's kitchen for checking the Turkey. The bonnet is hot to touch. The engine is hot to touch. The turbo is close to the hood which makes it hot. We all bought a PERFORMANCE car.
The engine will be hot, the turbo will make it hotter. The exhaust tips will burn you. Should we have the GOV step in and place big yellow warning stickers next to these? Please keep your children and loved ones away from these areas.
I live in South Korea. I don't appreciate people "touching" my vehicles. Mostly because we get a lot of dust and when "touching" they tend to leave a mark. Requiring cleaning on my part.
I have a motorcycle here. The engine and exhaust is exposed, and will likely burn your skin off. I have had many Koreans (they love to touch things lol) burn themselves "touching" my exhaust tips, and then complain. My friend has an 07S and recently burned his ankle on the exhaust tips. Guess what. It's very hot. Surprise.
Sorry......Is any of this in the MINI Owner's Manual? If not, common sense should direct you...........
The engine will be hot, the turbo will make it hotter. The exhaust tips will burn you. Should we have the GOV step in and place big yellow warning stickers next to these? Please keep your children and loved ones away from these areas.
I live in South Korea. I don't appreciate people "touching" my vehicles. Mostly because we get a lot of dust and when "touching" they tend to leave a mark. Requiring cleaning on my part.
I have a motorcycle here. The engine and exhaust is exposed, and will likely burn your skin off. I have had many Koreans (they love to touch things lol) burn themselves "touching" my exhaust tips, and then complain. My friend has an 07S and recently burned his ankle on the exhaust tips. Guess what. It's very hot. Surprise.
Sorry......Is any of this in the MINI Owner's Manual? If not, common sense should direct you...........
Last edited by seoulski; 10-13-2007 at 03:07 PM. Reason: Grammer error
#187
I think these IR scanners belong in the wife's kitchen for checking the Turkey. The bonnet is hot to touch. The engine is hot to touch. The turbo is close to the hood which makes it hot. We all bought a PERFORMANCE car.
The engine will be hot, the turbo will make it hotter. The exhaust tips will burn you. Should we have the GOV step in and place big yellow warning stickers next to these? Please keep your children and loved ones away from these areasI live in South Korea.
I don't appreciate people "touching" my vehicles. Mostly because we get a lot of dust and when "touching" they tend to leave a mark. Requiring cleaning on my part.
I have a motorcycle here. The engine and exhaust is exposed, and will likely burn your skin off. I have had many Koreans (they love to touch things lol) burn themselves "touching" my exhaust tips, and then complain. My friend has an 07S and recently burned his ankle on the exhaust tips. Guess what. It's very hot. Surprise.
Sorry......Is any of this in the MINI Owner's Manual? If not, common sense should direct you...........
The engine will be hot, the turbo will make it hotter. The exhaust tips will burn you. Should we have the GOV step in and place big yellow warning stickers next to these? Please keep your children and loved ones away from these areasI live in South Korea.
I don't appreciate people "touching" my vehicles. Mostly because we get a lot of dust and when "touching" they tend to leave a mark. Requiring cleaning on my part.
I have a motorcycle here. The engine and exhaust is exposed, and will likely burn your skin off. I have had many Koreans (they love to touch things lol) burn themselves "touching" my exhaust tips, and then complain. My friend has an 07S and recently burned his ankle on the exhaust tips. Guess what. It's very hot. Surprise.
Sorry......Is any of this in the MINI Owner's Manual? If not, common sense should direct you...........
#189
I carefully inspected mine and it is deformed as well. The mid section of the grill has three columns with no holes and that's where it gets hot the most on mine apparently. Right above that section the scoop is lower by about 1mm. I will not drummel out any holes in those columns and wait until it gets worse if it will. Then I will go to the dealership and get a new scoop.
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#191
Took some temps
I looked at the pictures of where Jinxy was measuring his temp from and the highest temp I recorded after a long drive was 185 F. My CD player did not work out of the box and i am driving a 2007 cooper as a loaner. Apparently the CD player is on national back order and it could take a month. I should have inspected the car more thoroughly, but I got caught up in the moment. Here is an interesting observation:The cooling fan stays on much longer in the MC than it does in the MCS, after you turn the car off. Do other turbo motors from VW or subaru suffer from these temp problems? And why would it affect only manual trannys?
Can you tell I only had two hours sleep last night.
Can you tell I only had two hours sleep last night.
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I looked at the pictures of where Jinxy was measuring his temp from and the highest temp I recorded after a long drive was 185 F. My CD player did not work out of the box and i am driving a 2007 cooper as a loaner. Apparently the CD player is on national back order and it could take a month. I should have inspected the car more thoroughly, but I got caught up in the moment. Here is an interesting observation:The cooling fan stays on much longer in the MC than it does in the MCS, after you turn the car off. Do other turbo motors from VW or subaru suffer from these temp problems? And why would it affect only manual trannys?
Can you tell I only had two hours sleep last night.
Can you tell I only had two hours sleep last night.
#193
Am thinking of making a suggestion to BMW (Bavarian Mini Works) to design an air diverter that would attach to the back of the hood scoop and direct incoming air over the exhuast-side of the turbo and heat shield. This way the faux intake scoop (with just a few open holes) can be removed and freely open for max air intake. Believe it would solve a lot of the problem...
#194
Am thinking of making a suggestion to BMW (Bavarian Mini Works) to design an air diverter that would attach to the back of the hood scoop and direct incoming air over the exhuast-side of the turbo and heat shield. This way the faux intake scoop (with just a few open holes) can be removed and freely open for max air intake. Believe it would solve a lot of the problem...
I don't think that increasing airflow through the scoop or routing that airflow over the turbo/manifold is going to help anything, since you'll only be getting that airflow with the car running/moving.
#196
Hi everyone,
The tech manager installed the check valve for the weeping washer jets on Friday. It appears to be working.
We spoke about a great number of things, related to Mini's. He understands our concern regarding the heat, but his hands are tied. He can only report the issue to Mini/BMW. Mini/BMW has to advise him on what to do.
ECU Version 27 should be available this week. He explained that when BMW releases a new version of firmware for the ECUs, that it doesn't mean there were any changes for the Mini's. It could have been for a specific model Bently or BMW model that needed something addressed and nothing Mini related.
I specifically asked him if Mini/BMW sent "release notes" with their updates that describe if and what issues/items the update fixes/adds. He said yes, they accompany the update. He also said he had not received any release notes for version 27.
He also told me that, we can't just schedule our Mini's to have the ECU updated (under warranty), unless we have a specific problem that an update would fix.
So, unless Mini/BMW releases a TSB regarding the heat issue, or something else, your ECU remains "as is".
So, if you MCS has the blazing bonnet issue, report it to your dealer and also report it to NHTSA as a safety/burn issue.
Thanks!!
The tech manager installed the check valve for the weeping washer jets on Friday. It appears to be working.
We spoke about a great number of things, related to Mini's. He understands our concern regarding the heat, but his hands are tied. He can only report the issue to Mini/BMW. Mini/BMW has to advise him on what to do.
ECU Version 27 should be available this week. He explained that when BMW releases a new version of firmware for the ECUs, that it doesn't mean there were any changes for the Mini's. It could have been for a specific model Bently or BMW model that needed something addressed and nothing Mini related.
I specifically asked him if Mini/BMW sent "release notes" with their updates that describe if and what issues/items the update fixes/adds. He said yes, they accompany the update. He also said he had not received any release notes for version 27.
He also told me that, we can't just schedule our Mini's to have the ECU updated (under warranty), unless we have a specific problem that an update would fix.
So, unless Mini/BMW releases a TSB regarding the heat issue, or something else, your ECU remains "as is".
So, if you MCS has the blazing bonnet issue, report it to your dealer and also report it to NHTSA as a safety/burn issue.
Thanks!!
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