An Open Letter to NAM
#76
I think a big step in the right direction would be to improve the vendor review & rating system. I have written 2 reviews but when I click on reviews I only see one vendor I reviewed & it is very confusing as to if I am viewing actual "vendor" reviews or "product" reviews. I know there is some way to hunt around & find the other vendor I reviewed but it just shouldn't be that hard to find because that means someone researching a vendor will have a difficult time. It would also be nice if they had stars instead of just numerical rating values by their names. I know it's cheesy & a small thing but the stars stand out & are easier to spot than some number lost in a bunch of other words.
I think if the vendor review system stood out & was more prominent perhaps people would be more content with leaving one scathing review on a product or vendor than feeling the need to repeatedly dog them.
I think if the vendor review system stood out & was more prominent perhaps people would be more content with leaving one scathing review on a product or vendor than feeling the need to repeatedly dog them.
Given that it is now in two places on each page I'm not sure how to make it more obvious for members on the site that this function is available.
As for the functionality in the review system....it is a third party product (same people that produce our gallery software). Its not easily modified (I've tried) and I agree, it probably doesn't support everything we would really like.
#77
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Mark
#79
As for not all vendors being in there they can be resolved. My hope was that people would, over time, help to add all the vendors (both on the site and those that aren't...similar to the way you can contribute to wikipedia).
Mark
#80
OK this is just how I would like it
I would like all the NAM vendors names to appear in the list when I click reviews then vendor. I think they should be in alphabetical order. Anything you can do to make their rating stand out a bit more would also be nice.
When I click the vendor link it says "products" at the top of the list instead of "vendors". That makes it kinda confusing & makes me think I am in the wrong place.
Since it sounds like the MOD you have can't be altered very much I think those few little thing would help a lot if they are possible
In my wildest dreams every vendor would have a number beside their NAM name (the number would be the number of reviews that have been written about them) that is a clickable link. That link would take you to that vendors page that had only their reviews & feedback in one neat tidy place. Kinda like ebay... but I know I am getting a bit carried away with that wish
I would like all the NAM vendors names to appear in the list when I click reviews then vendor. I think they should be in alphabetical order. Anything you can do to make their rating stand out a bit more would also be nice.
When I click the vendor link it says "products" at the top of the list instead of "vendors". That makes it kinda confusing & makes me think I am in the wrong place.
Since it sounds like the MOD you have can't be altered very much I think those few little thing would help a lot if they are possible
In my wildest dreams every vendor would have a number beside their NAM name (the number would be the number of reviews that have been written about them) that is a clickable link. That link would take you to that vendors page that had only their reviews & feedback in one neat tidy place. Kinda like ebay... but I know I am getting a bit carried away with that wish
#81
#82
In this thread I've seen a lot of talk about what is wrong and not a lot about concrete steps on how to fix the issues. Is there a method that could be implemented to provide constructive negative feedback to vendors so that people could easily find it?
Is anyone really up to a challenge like this and do it without a personal agenda? If so, I'm all ears and will support it however I can.
Mark
iTrader would be a good start. this is the only forum using vBulletin that still doesn't have it turned on
#83
As to the idea of "Let's kick out the vendors and everything will be fine":
I think that ignores the very topic that gave rise to the quoted text in the OP . . . you can kick out vendors and sponsorship support, add third party ads that don't benefit anyone, and . . . what do you have?
A site that only highlights the new products of vendors who by shilling or fanboys "advertise" on NAM, and a site that excludes vendors who would not stoop to that level to pander a product. I can only see this creating more problems, accusations, personal attacks, etc . . . my 2 cents.
I think that ignores the very topic that gave rise to the quoted text in the OP . . . you can kick out vendors and sponsorship support, add third party ads that don't benefit anyone, and . . . what do you have?
A site that only highlights the new products of vendors who by shilling or fanboys "advertise" on NAM, and a site that excludes vendors who would not stoop to that level to pander a product. I can only see this creating more problems, accusations, personal attacks, etc . . . my 2 cents.
#84
NAM policy.doc
As long as both are treated with equal measure then I do not have a problem with vendors or members. Questioning anyones credibility in a demeaning way is uncalled for.
#85
Please read.
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As long as both are treated with equal measure then I do not have a problem with vendors or members. Questioning anyones credibility in a demeaning way is uncalled for.
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As long as both are treated with equal measure then I do not have a problem with vendors or members. Questioning anyones credibility in a demeaning way is uncalled for.
#86
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WOW you guys worked this issue hard last night.
I also think PGT has posted some of his best work here and I agree with him.
Adam's got good points too. Nate is right on too.
I think Mark's built something great and works great 99.9% of the time.
Mark, may be a god, but he is not God and NAM is not the holy word.
All of you keep up the good work of making NAM a better place each and every day with your involvement.
#87
PS I've read her comments on various threads and I've been in for less than a month.
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p.s... I have seen lois post a lot over the years
#90
#92
nah...just a tendency of mods to come out of the woodwork in threads like this. it's always interesting to see who participates here vs. normal day to day operations of the site.
not a criticism...I don't post much anymore on the site I'm a supermod on....though I do read a ton and move stuff when needed, just behind the scenes now.
not a criticism...I don't post much anymore on the site I'm a supermod on....though I do read a ton and move stuff when needed, just behind the scenes now.
#93
As to getting over it. Kind of hard to do when asked by someone who proudly calls themselves a known insulter.
Mark
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But like my skin, sometimes my brain is thick too.
Mark
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I for one do not think Mark, founder of NAM, as "sold out". One of the cool things about becoming a vendor is getting to know others better, Mark for one, and I'll stand up and say without a 2nd thought, Mark as not "sold out".
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As to your question. Members join dates are in the upper right of every post they make. If you need to see their status, go to their profile. But being a supermod, I'm sure you are aware of this kind of thing.
As to getting over it. Kind of hard to do when asked by someone who proudly calls themselves a known insulter.
Mark
As to getting over it. Kind of hard to do when asked by someone who proudly calls themselves a known insulter.
Mark
Now go kiss the wifey
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Even the Sex Pistols Sold out. http://www.theage.com.au/news/people...701665565.html