R61 What did you do to your PACEMAN today?
#126
#128
Ordered a VIP CAI (a few days ago, actually). Yeah, yeah, no measurable hp gains or anything. I don't care at this point ... I've got the JB+ tune and a Megan muffler, so why not round out the cheapo mods with an intake, and get a little extra noise for excitement if I can't get all the HP I really want.
Should be coming next week ... will post up results when it's in.
Should be coming next week ... will post up results when it's in.
#129
#130
Just finished installing the VIP CAI. Not too difficult a job. I'm not totally mechanically-impaired, but I don't do a whole lot in the way of wrenching these days. Took me about 1 1/2 hours all told, including removing and re-installing the strut tower brace. No real difficulties to speak of, other than step 2, the first step after removing the stock air box, which says: "Install the 3" black silicon connector by sliding it on until it stops at the ring. Use the supplied hose clamp and tighten. See Picture #1." The problem is, it doesn't say what to install the 3" black silicon connector to, and Picture #1 does very little to clarify exactly what it is. After fitting all the pieces in place, I realized that it slips over the end of the stock cold air tube, which then slides into the lower hole in the VIP main bracket. Basically, all it does is hold the cold air tube from rattling around. I took my time, pre-fit everything, and was extremely careful to not drop any screws or nuts. I had what seemed like half the tools I own out (it wasn't really that many, but it seemed like it by the time I was done); luckily I had everything I needed, including the T-25 and T-30 Torx head drivers.
Now as for the noise -- it does make some noise, but not exactly what I was expecting. I had installed a CAI on a PT Cruiser (non-turbo), and it gave it a nice throaty growl when I romped on it. On this installation, there isn't really much more of a growl than I already had, but there is a whole lot of hissing and whooshing coming out of the turbo now that I never heard before. I only took it for a short shot down the road and back, but I'll have it out for a longer drive tomorrow and get a better idea of what other noises it might make, and if there's any noticeable performance boost. So far I haven't felt much of anything, but after everything I've read here, I wasn't expecting much anyway.
Next stop, I think I need a big fat-a$$ rear anti-sway bar (not something I'm going to attempt myself), you know, to make it handle more like a proper MINI.
Now as for the noise -- it does make some noise, but not exactly what I was expecting. I had installed a CAI on a PT Cruiser (non-turbo), and it gave it a nice throaty growl when I romped on it. On this installation, there isn't really much more of a growl than I already had, but there is a whole lot of hissing and whooshing coming out of the turbo now that I never heard before. I only took it for a short shot down the road and back, but I'll have it out for a longer drive tomorrow and get a better idea of what other noises it might make, and if there's any noticeable performance boost. So far I haven't felt much of anything, but after everything I've read here, I wasn't expecting much anyway.
Next stop, I think I need a big fat-a$$ rear anti-sway bar (not something I'm going to attempt myself), you know, to make it handle more like a proper MINI.
#131
Please report back after driving more.
The rear sway install wasn't that bad, but I had access to a lift.
If you get the VIP bar then ask them to send the spacers. Their bar is great but on some roads made contact with the sub frame. They quickly sent some spacers (for free and super quick shipping) but I had to do extra work since I didn't get them automatically.
The rear sway install wasn't that bad, but I had access to a lift.
If you get the VIP bar then ask them to send the spacers. Their bar is great but on some roads made contact with the sub frame. They quickly sent some spacers (for free and super quick shipping) but I had to do extra work since I didn't get them automatically.
#132
Please report back after driving more.
The rear sway install wasn't that bad, but I had access to a lift.
If you get the VIP bar then ask them to send the spacers. Their bar is great but on some roads made contact with the sub frame. They quickly sent some spacers (for free and super quick shipping) but I had to do extra work since I didn't get them automatically.
The rear sway install wasn't that bad, but I had access to a lift.
If you get the VIP bar then ask them to send the spacers. Their bar is great but on some roads made contact with the sub frame. They quickly sent some spacers (for free and super quick shipping) but I had to do extra work since I didn't get them automatically.
And thanks for that info on the spacers!
#133
I did the rear sway as my first mod and felt a very significant difference in body roll in the corners. I had the same VIP CAI installed and noticed and noticed a decent increase in power, but I have the base model, and the car really was a dog to begin with. I just wanted to mention that if anybody else out there has the 'Justa' version, the CAI really helps get you off the line, and the sound, although definitely noticeable when you are on the gas, does not drone once you are cruising. Hella light kit from VIP really improved the sight distance at night, since car did not come with xenons. I think they look pretty good, too. Pix soon, I promise!
#134
Please report back after driving more.
The rear sway install wasn't that bad, but I had access to a lift.
If you get the VIP bar then ask them to send the spacers. Their bar is great but on some roads made contact with the sub frame. They quickly sent some spacers (for free and super quick shipping) but I had to do extra work since I didn't get them automatically.
The rear sway install wasn't that bad, but I had access to a lift.
If you get the VIP bar then ask them to send the spacers. Their bar is great but on some roads made contact with the sub frame. They quickly sent some spacers (for free and super quick shipping) but I had to do extra work since I didn't get them automatically.
The biggest surprise I guess is still all the different noises coming out of the turbo. You can definitely hear it sucking in air during acceleration; but the real hoot is hearing that blow-off valve now when I never heard it before. I feel just a little bit more in touch with the engine and what it's doing now. Definitely not sorry I got it.
Just for people who don't follow my every syllable, I also have a Megan axle-back exhaust and the JB+ tune. The three seem to be working together nicely to improve this car's all-around fun factor. I had also installed a VIP strut tower brace in the front; that seems to have improved steering responsiveness, but didn't really do much for overall handling. A rear sway bar should be the last piece of the puzzle. And maybe some strips ... for another 5 hp. Each.
#135
I ordered yesterday the VIP AIRVIP 3 and the turbo heat shield.
I really like the quality of VIP. I have the front strut bar and rear sway bar from them already.
Hoping to get a little hp from the airvip combined with my jb+.
Ed, are you lowering it also? I went cheap and did HR Springs. Coil overs would be better ride but for the cost the HR Springs are working out just fine.
Did the exhaust gain any hp?
I really like the quality of VIP. I have the front strut bar and rear sway bar from them already.
Hoping to get a little hp from the airvip combined with my jb+.
Ed, are you lowering it also? I went cheap and did HR Springs. Coil overs would be better ride but for the cost the HR Springs are working out just fine.
Did the exhaust gain any hp?
#136
I ordered yesterday the VIP AIRVIP 3 and the turbo heat shield.
I really like the quality of VIP. I have the front strut bar and rear sway bar from them already.
Hoping to get a little hp from the airvip combined with my jb+.
Ed, are you lowering it also? I went cheap and did HR Springs. Coil overs would be better ride but for the cost the HR Springs are working out just fine.
Did the exhaust gain any hp?
I really like the quality of VIP. I have the front strut bar and rear sway bar from them already.
Hoping to get a little hp from the airvip combined with my jb+.
Ed, are you lowering it also? I went cheap and did HR Springs. Coil overs would be better ride but for the cost the HR Springs are working out just fine.
Did the exhaust gain any hp?
I don't think I'll be doing any more suspension mods other than the sway bar ... that's starting to get into more serious labor that I'm just not that serious to get into.
As for the exhaust, I think there was a minimal gain. There's definitely more tone, though that took a few thousand miles for it to open up a bit. Both the intake and the exhaust seem to point more to letting the turbo spool up a little quicker; there isn't measurably more power, but it's there sooner. I would love to see what this setup would do with a real tune.
#138
ASKtheteach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by veggivet
Did you notice any change in FM reception with the shorter antenna?
The FM antenna is built into the back window glass. The rubber antenna is only for AM reception. Unless you listen to AM, you could actually take it off, and it won't affect anything.
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WOW, I did not know that..
Must have been the weather or my imagination
Thanks ASKtheteach
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Quote:
Originally Posted by veggivet
Did you notice any change in FM reception with the shorter antenna?
The FM antenna is built into the back window glass. The rubber antenna is only for AM reception. Unless you listen to AM, you could actually take it off, and it won't affect anything.
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WOW, I did not know that..
Must have been the weather or my imagination
Thanks ASKtheteach
There is actual a newer design MINI stubby that is 82mm. And the older design, which is the same as the URO 105mm version.
MINI Stubby:
http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/65202296772/
MINI Stubby - 82MM
URO Stubby- 105
Thanks
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#139
T25 Torx
T30 Torx
7 MM, 8 MM, 10 MM and 11MM sockets
11 MM open end wrench
5/32" Allen wrench
Small straight screwdriver
If I can ever remember to take the destructions to work, I can scan them and shoot a copy to anybody who needs them. But my memory sucks, especially when I'm getting ready for work in the morning.
T30 Torx
7 MM, 8 MM, 10 MM and 11MM sockets
11 MM open end wrench
5/32" Allen wrench
Small straight screwdriver
If I can ever remember to take the destructions to work, I can scan them and shoot a copy to anybody who needs them. But my memory sucks, especially when I'm getting ready for work in the morning.
#140
Installed VIP CAI and Turbo Heat Shield today. (Front Strut Bar is also VIP)(jb+ also old install)
Took me about 3 hours including modifying the Mini Black plastic cover to fit with the heat shield.
Is the bottom hole supposed to be open with nothing attached or even a screen?
Pictures posted. Also added the VIP sticker to add 5hp just in case the CAI doesn't give any performance gain
Took me about 3 hours including modifying the Mini Black plastic cover to fit with the heat shield.
Is the bottom hole supposed to be open with nothing attached or even a screen?
Pictures posted. Also added the VIP sticker to add 5hp just in case the CAI doesn't give any performance gain
#141
Installed VIP CAI and Turbo Heat Shield today. (Front Strut Bar is also VIP)(jb+ also old install)
Took me about 3 hours including modifying the Mini Black plastic cover to fit with the heat shield.
Is the bottom hole supposed to be open with nothing attached or even a screen?
Pictures posted. Also added the VIP sticker to add 5hp just in case the CAI doesn't give any performance gain
Took me about 3 hours including modifying the Mini Black plastic cover to fit with the heat shield.
Is the bottom hole supposed to be open with nothing attached or even a screen?
Pictures posted. Also added the VIP sticker to add 5hp just in case the CAI doesn't give any performance gain
#143
Paceman is now a Pac Man
this past week i had Crystaline window tint installed all around, a clear bra over the whole hood and today, I turned my Paceman into a Pac Man...
tomorrow i head to the dealer to pick up the Chilli Red intake vents that were supposed to come with the car and have a quick check of all fluids and the brakes before we roll out for MTTS 2014 on Weds!
excited!
tomorrow i head to the dealer to pick up the Chilli Red intake vents that were supposed to come with the car and have a quick check of all fluids and the brakes before we roll out for MTTS 2014 on Weds!
excited!
#144
Only a matter of time till I guessed someone would do that.
Have fun at MTTS Chi-town.
Have fun at MTTS Chi-town.
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#145
the Pac Man was supposed to come de-badged/stealth from the factory, but my order had lots of things that fell through the cracks unfortunately. so i figured i'd play with the badging a bit before removing it myself.
who knows, maybe the 'Chilli Red Pac Man' will become a thing after MTTS
#146
Went and got my first scheduled oil change, they even bathed the car for me.
Saw some of the new Cooper S on the floor and they are gorgeous. The Paceman is nice and all but the new guys have some serious tech and good lines. Also the S apparently has 189 HP?! While we are stuck with 181 in a bigger car, JB+ helps but come on Mini!
Saw some of the new Cooper S on the floor and they are gorgeous. The Paceman is nice and all but the new guys have some serious tech and good lines. Also the S apparently has 189 HP?! While we are stuck with 181 in a bigger car, JB+ helps but come on Mini!
#147
i know i'm not the first
the Pac Man was supposed to come de-badged/stealth from the factory, but my order had lots of things that fell through the cracks unfortunately. so i figured i'd play with the badging a bit before removing it myself.
who knows, maybe the 'Chilli Red Pac Man' will become a thing after MTTS
the Pac Man was supposed to come de-badged/stealth from the factory, but my order had lots of things that fell through the cracks unfortunately. so i figured i'd play with the badging a bit before removing it myself.
who knows, maybe the 'Chilli Red Pac Man' will become a thing after MTTS
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#148
miniwpbear,
Could you post a few more outdoor daylight photos of your Starlight Blue Paceman with the red brake duct intake inserts?
Thanks!
Could you post a few more outdoor daylight photos of your Starlight Blue Paceman with the red brake duct intake inserts?
Thanks!