R56 Sudden battery death syndrome. SBDS
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Sudden battery death syndrome. SBDS
My 2012 r56 hardtop just experienced SBDS or sudden battery death syndrome.
The battery is the OEM unit that came with the car. It's only 2 1/2 years old with about 25000 miles. With no warning at all it just failed to start. MINIs sure do strange things when the voltage gets low ! The starter would not turn or even engage. The auto trans would not move out of park. The CD player would spin up and spin down by itself. Sometimes the radio would turn on other times not. I think I've seen every warning indicator possible. The wiper blades moved real slow. The gas gage would go empty to full and back to empty, over and over.
MINI roadside assist did work. A local tow got to me within maybe 15 minutes. We did successfully jump start it and it ran fine. I could have driven it home, I think, but I decided to just have the tow take it to the dealer. We will see what they say when they open tomorrow morning.
I have heard AGM batteries fail this way but I have never actually had one fail before. 2 1/2 years also seems like a rather short life unless the failure itself was caused by some kind of wiring harness fault.
Arrrrgh ......
The battery is the OEM unit that came with the car. It's only 2 1/2 years old with about 25000 miles. With no warning at all it just failed to start. MINIs sure do strange things when the voltage gets low ! The starter would not turn or even engage. The auto trans would not move out of park. The CD player would spin up and spin down by itself. Sometimes the radio would turn on other times not. I think I've seen every warning indicator possible. The wiper blades moved real slow. The gas gage would go empty to full and back to empty, over and over.
MINI roadside assist did work. A local tow got to me within maybe 15 minutes. We did successfully jump start it and it ran fine. I could have driven it home, I think, but I decided to just have the tow take it to the dealer. We will see what they say when they open tomorrow morning.
I have heard AGM batteries fail this way but I have never actually had one fail before. 2 1/2 years also seems like a rather short life unless the failure itself was caused by some kind of wiring harness fault.
Arrrrgh ......
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Here in AZ, the heat kills batteries rather quickly (around 3 years). And yes, they can be great one day, the next kaput. Probably a cell went bad. As you saw, weird electrical things happen when it's marginal. That why when a member posts electrical problems, a lot of responding members will first ask, is the battery known to be good?
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Dealer says bad cell. Battery replaced. Total out of pocket cost was $0.00. Not bad, except for the inconvenience.
I did learn something interesting while contacting MINI roadside assist. The operator knew my exact location without me telling him. Seems like MINIs broadcast their GPS location. Not sure how I feel about that.
I did learn something interesting while contacting MINI roadside assist. The operator knew my exact location without me telling him. Seems like MINIs broadcast their GPS location. Not sure how I feel about that.
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Dealer says bad cell. Battery replaced. Total out of pocket cost was $0.00. Not bad, except for the inconvenience.
I did learn something interesting while contacting MINI roadside assist. The operator knew my exact location without me telling him. Seems like MINIs broadcast their GPS location. Not sure how I feel about that.
I did learn something interesting while contacting MINI roadside assist. The operator knew my exact location without me telling him. Seems like MINIs broadcast their GPS location. Not sure how I feel about that.
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seems to be a mix of battery options, my 13 clubman came with a 640CCA AGM, wifes 11 MCS came with a 440CCA AGM and very similiar options so no idea why the different sizes.
A note I had my battery replaced because ?? Who knows, for a error I was getting that had nothing to do with it BUT they tried to sneak a 460 plain battery in, I was like NO NO you don't, went back and got a 680CCA AGM . Gotta pay attention.
Wifes new to us 12 R57 had a smaller original AGM, we had them pull the newer, larger AGM from our trade in . Always prefer a larger battery unless you have a track car and are concerned with weight.
In all MINI's seem to go through batteries faster than any other car I've owned, I assume it's all the modules in BMW cars.
A note I had my battery replaced because ?? Who knows, for a error I was getting that had nothing to do with it BUT they tried to sneak a 460 plain battery in, I was like NO NO you don't, went back and got a 680CCA AGM . Gotta pay attention.
Wifes new to us 12 R57 had a smaller original AGM, we had them pull the newer, larger AGM from our trade in . Always prefer a larger battery unless you have a track car and are concerned with weight.
In all MINI's seem to go through batteries faster than any other car I've owned, I assume it's all the modules in BMW cars.
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The Mini doesn't broadcast location via GPS I don't think. I have a dealer add on called Lojack, which does broadcast location so the car can be found by law enforcement in case of theft. If you don't have that they probably found you via your phone. BTW you just got a battery with a bad cell. I'm in Arizona and my 2007 MCS still had the OEM battery when I traded it in last year with 70k miles on it.
Batteries do randomly fail internally. This is the second one I've had in 40+ years of driving. I will not fault MINI, Unless it happens again!
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Nice!
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LoJack was a radio based system. A transmitter in each car and a special receiver in LoJack equipped police cars. These days the cellular net or satellites could do the same thing. Is LoJack even still in business ?
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