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so i just purchased some coil overs and while I'm waiting for them to arrive I'm looking into getting spacers, i have BBS CV wheels and the offset is 38. i was looking at getting 8mm spacers, but i do not feel comfortable without using a wheel lock. does anyone know where i can get an extra length wheel lock that would work with a 8mm spacer?
 
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I would go with either a 5mm or 15mm spacer. When you are less than 15mm and more than 5mm I feel you don't have enough of the hub to support and center of the wheel properly as you are covering up hub too much.
We then offer wheel stud kits that are longer to use with the spacers. Getting longer bolts that are wheel locks are hard, and even harder for just 8mm.
 
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Do wheel spacers hurt the hubs at all due to pushing the wheels out further from the car? Also, I have heard of wheel spacers "freezing" to the hub and won't come off. Any truth to this? Thanks.
 
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Do wheel spacers hurt the hubs at all due to pushing the wheels out further from the car? Also, I have heard of wheel spacers "freezing" to the hub and won't come off. Any truth to this? Thanks.
Both wheels and spacers can become fastened/stuck to the hub if they are not loosened and removed once in a while like at least once a year. You can use a little copper grease sparingly only on the wheel hub area. Be sure to clean off the wheel and the hub surfaces that have any rust or corrosion, you can use a light sandpaper.

If you get a stuck wheel you can hit it with a rubber 3 lb mallot at various angles to loosen the wheel. Just be careful if you have the car jacked up (use jack stands or blocks).

Using wheel spacers will put more stress on the wheel bearings but for narrow spacers it's not that big a deal.
 
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I would go with either a 5mm or 15mm spacer. When you are less than 15mm and more than 5mm I feel you don't have enough of the hub to support and center of the wheel properly as you are covering up hub too much.
We then offer wheel stud kits that are longer to use with the spacers. Getting longer bolts that are wheel locks are hard, and even harder for just 8mm.
id love to just get 5mm spacers but its just not enough, i think 8mm would be perfect but i just really need to find wheel locks, the bolts for the mini is m14x1.25 and the length is 28mm if I'm correct. so i need to find 35mm bolts
 
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I don't see any one selling extended 14x1.25 locking lug bolts online.

One option is to buy the extended lug bolts that you need (seem to be easy to find on ebay) and then buy locking covers. They cover the head of the bolt and require a sort of key to remove the cover. I don't remember the name or brand, but they are out there.

Another option is to convert your lug bolts to studs and buy extended studs and open ended locking lug nuts. You could also buy closed ended locking lug nuts, but it can be a little tricky finding studs that are long enough to allow your lug nuts to capture enough threads to be safe while at the same time being short enough so they don't bottom out at the outer end of the lug nut.
 
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Do wheel spacers hurt the hubs at all due to pushing the wheels out further from the car? Also, I have heard of wheel spacers "freezing" to the hub and won't come off. Any truth to this? Thanks.
Don't think they hurt the hubs.

As for sticking to the hubs. That is why all our WMW wheel spacers are machined with a very slight recess to reduce the contact area and prevent the spacer from sticking to the hub. Very nice feature not offered on most spacers.
WMW 5mm Spacers

WMW 15mm Spacers
 
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With OEM stock 15 inch wheels, and wanting to push the wheel flush with the fender trim what mm spacer would be needed? I believe the OEM wheels are 45 offset (43?) and they are 5.5 inches wide. I want to put 195/60/15 tires on the wheels so there will be some tire over hang on the wheel lip. I typically see where ET 30 are close to flush but I know the wheel width has a factor in the calculation and 5.5 inch wheels are narrow. Help would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
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so i just purchased some coil overs and while I'm waiting for them to arrive I'm looking into getting spacers, i have BBS CV wheels and the offset is 38.
What size wheels (width in particular)?
What size tires (brand and model)?
What c/o did you install, and how much are you lowering the car?
What makes you so sure you need spacers, and exactly 8mm width ?

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i was looking at getting 8mm spacers, but i do not feel comfortable without using a wheel lock. does anyone know where i can get an extra length wheel lock that would work with a 8mm spacer?
If you can't park your car safely without wheel locks, it's time to move.
If you don't, sooner or later you will run into much bigger problems than missing wheels!

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I have BBS RGR's that are ET38. You're right the 8mm spacers are perfect for the rear. I didn't use any on the front. Here's pics:
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What size wheels (width in particular)?
What size tires (brand and model)?
What c/o did you install, and how much are you lowering the car?
What makes you so sure you need spacers, and exactly 8mm width ?



If you can't park your car safely without wheel locks, it's time to move.
If you don't, sooner or later you will run into much bigger problems than missing wheels!

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i have 17 x 7.5 et38, tires are 205/45R17 continental extreme contact dw. i purchased bc coil overs with swift springs. i plan on going low but not maxing out the coil over, i want to have a nice flush look. i was told the front wheels don't clear the coil over without spacers, i wanted to play it safe when installing the coilovers and have the spacers. i have seen 5mm spacers on a mini with coil overs with stock 17in wheels, i know the offset is slightly different but with the 5mm spacer there was plenty of space from the fender. i know 15mm would be too much, i was thinking with my offset and an 8mm spacer would look pretty good.

also, there are plenty of places i have to go where i do not trust leaving my car without wheel locks, it happened to a buddy of mine with his stock wheels on his wry and i really don't want it to happen to my BBS. so its important to get locks for my personal reasons.
 
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I have BBS RGR's that are ET38. You're right the 8mm spacers are perfect for the rear. I didn't use any on the front. Here's pics:

are you lowered on coilovers?i think with the 8mm it looks perfect in the rear in those pictures. i was planning on doing 8mm all the way around
 
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are you lowered on coilovers?i think with the 8mm it looks perfect in the rear in those pictures. i was planning on doing 8mm all the way around
I'm running the Bistein B12 kit. Eibach springs and B8 shocks. About 30mm drop. I didn't notice much before springs but the 8mm spacers makes them roughly equal to the front. I got the spacers on e-bay and they're very nice quality and pretty cheap.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/301403289486?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I have splined lugbolts but wish they were maybe a little longer. Maybe I should convert to studs...not sure
 
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I am getting AP Coilovers and 8mm spacers both front and rear (purchased from ECS Tuning) installed later this week.

Will post some pics when done.
 
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Use a light coating of ANTISEIZE COMPOUND and you'll never,ever have a problem. Been doing this for over 50 years.


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I am getting AP Coilovers and 8mm spacers both front and rear (purchased from ECS Tuning) installed later this week.

Will post some pics when done.

Thanks for the purchase, make sure you clean the hub and rotor hat face, put a little anti-seize on the hub and use our ECS Tuning MINI spacers and you will be fine. Also make sure you clean the connection point on the new wheels of old corrosion from the rotor / hub.




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Any response to my question ECS Tuning?
 
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The video shows the measure method with the new wheels tires installed to get the correct size spacer. Do you have the wheel / tires installed already, if so you just need to measure.
 
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Originally Posted by adrchn
I am getting AP Coilovers and 8mm spacers both front and rear (purchased from ECS Tuning) installed later this week.

Will post some pics when done.
sounds good I'm very curious how its going to look!
 
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i got all my parts in for the coil overs just waiting for my spacers to get here then doing the install. will post pics after the install. almost ready for the dragon!!
 
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Awesome, post up some pics when you can.
 
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finally here are some pics if any one wanted to see
 
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That looks sweet! You went with 15mm spacers? Do you have any rubbing issues?
 
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That looks sweet! You went with 15mm spacers? Do you have any rubbing issues?
I went with the 8mm spacers from ecs, my wheel offset is 38 so they stick out a bit, I have very minimal rubbing, only on big bumps
 
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Looks great, pretty flush.
 
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