R56 R56 Battery registry
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R56 Battery registry
Does anyone have instructions or procedure for registering a new battery in the R56? 2007 specifically. I've read many of the posts regarding changing out the battery and the pros and cons of registering. All posts have been very informative and useful; however, I have not come across a post with specific instructions.
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This question has been around for some time. Let's review.
There are 2 different scenarios involved with the R56.
1. Models that were manufactured with the intelligent battery system module. These cars have a small box attached to the battery cable (size of pack of cigarettes maybe). These cars should have the battery programmed after replacing because it tells the system how to charge a new battery compared to an old battery. Should help life of battery if reset. Compared to over charging a new battery that it thinks is old.
2. Cars that don't have the IBS. Nothing is required. Just replace and go.
There are 2 different scenarios involved with the R56.
1. Models that were manufactured with the intelligent battery system module. These cars have a small box attached to the battery cable (size of pack of cigarettes maybe). These cars should have the battery programmed after replacing because it tells the system how to charge a new battery compared to an old battery. Should help life of battery if reset. Compared to over charging a new battery that it thinks is old.
2. Cars that don't have the IBS. Nothing is required. Just replace and go.
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Shatzy62 wrote it best so in an effort to save time here is a copy and paste.
THERE IS a procedure that is supposed to be done on the computer system when a battery is replaced and it DOES affect the way the car sees the battery. No it does not take 1.5 hours only about 5 minutes.
So for those who think this is BS well it is not totally
Here is the wording straight out of the Wiring Diagram Service from BMW/MINI
Registering the battery replacement
Why register the battery replacement?
After fitting a new battery, the service function 'Register battery replacement' should be run. Registration of the battery replacement is necessary to notify the power management (software in the engine electronics and intelligent battery sensor) that a new battery has been fitted in the vehicle.
Without registration of the battery replacement, the power management does not run properly and this can lead to function limitations, for example reduction or deactivation of individual consumer units.
Register battery replacement
This function informs the power management in the DME/DDE of a battery replacement. The following operations are performed:
•The current kilometre reading is stored for the battery replacement.
•The stored measured values (battery charge statuses, current, voltage, temperature, etc.) are deleted.
•The power management is initialised.
Replacing the battery: other battery capacity or AGM battery
As the battery depends on the engine ands options fitted, the following information is coded in the CAS:
•Battery capacity (for example 90 Ah)
•Battery type: AGM battery or lead-acid battery.
In the case of battery replacement, in general the battery capacity used as series standard may be used.
On installation of a battery with higher or lower capacity or installation of an AGM battery, Progman must be used to recode the CAS:
•With Progman, run the retrofit ”Battery” (select battery capacity of the fitted battery).
•Register additional battery replacements with this service function.
Battery: battery capacity and battery type
The battery capacity can be read from the label with the technical data. The other label contains safety instructions.
AGM batteries can be recognised by the black battery housing. The cycle-proof AGM batteries are used for especially heavy loads on the vehicle network depending on equipment and requirements.
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Gray,
Thanks for adding the documentation I totally agree that it is what is stated and the manufacturer claims it impacts the battery life etc.
But again, this is only for the 2nd gen cars with the IBS battery system. Not all were made with them. My 09 JCW didn't have the IBS. There nothing to program. PER THE DEALER.
It's easy to check. The module is inline on the battery cable maybe 8 inches downstream.
Realoem and Penskeparts shows 2 different battery cables. One with the module one without. I have no idea what option package triggered the IBS on build. My JCW was low option: no cruise, no sunroof, no mfsw.
Thanks for adding the documentation I totally agree that it is what is stated and the manufacturer claims it impacts the battery life etc.
But again, this is only for the 2nd gen cars with the IBS battery system. Not all were made with them. My 09 JCW didn't have the IBS. There nothing to program. PER THE DEALER.
It's easy to check. The module is inline on the battery cable maybe 8 inches downstream.
Realoem and Penskeparts shows 2 different battery cables. One with the module one without. I have no idea what option package triggered the IBS on build. My JCW was low option: no cruise, no sunroof, no mfsw.
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Always educational. The Raven has the definitive answer for us Gen 1 holdouts. Maybe I need to study up a little on the Gen 2 and 3 so's I know when to keep my own council. One thing though. Isn't it worrisome that the manufacturers are evolving a system that really doesn't need evolved just for the sake of automating these cars beyond necessary? After all, a it's just a friggin' battery.
The future of the flashlight: 1. replace batteries 2. connect flashlight usb cable to computer 3. access manufacturers website 4. select model of flashlight 5. re-flash flashlight!
The future of the flashlight: 1. replace batteries 2. connect flashlight usb cable to computer 3. access manufacturers website 4. select model of flashlight 5. re-flash flashlight!
Last edited by Fly'n Brick; 02-25-2015 at 12:40 PM.
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My R56 does have the IBS which lead me to the decision to do the registry. Being a thrifty individual, I wanted to attempt this myself before handing over the buck to a mechanic and because there is no dealer closer than 100 miles to me. In the post from Gray Raven my question would be; how do I access the service function 'Register battery replacement' ? Is this done through the rev counter or is a separate computer needed to do the registry?
Last edited by rtbship; 02-26-2015 at 06:53 AM.
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If anyone in NYC/Northern NJ area wants me to change their battery type and/or register their new battery, PM me. I can do it for 20 bucks. I live near Giants Stadium. I bought the Carly for BMW app yesterday and registered my new battery. Everything seems to work great so far. For anyone that wants to get their own, The app and adapter cost me about $135 total. I would like to recoup what I paid. Depending if you need fault codes reset, It takes about 15-20 mins to do everything. My battery died so a bunch of fault codes showed up as Low Voltage. I had 21 fault codes due to the old battery dying and I reset everything. If there's 10 guys that want to meet up, I can do it for 10 bucks. I'm not trying to make a profit, just get back what I paid.
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I'm sure many people would be thrilled to pay $10 or $20 to have their battery reset and not have to pay the dealership to do it. If I saw this offered on here, I would have met up with the person posting and have him do it for me instead of pay $135 for the app/adapter myself. Having 10 people come to my house at different times and then doing the work for them for $10 is a waste of my time if I wasn't trying to do a service for the mini community in my area and at the same time recoup what I paid. Hell... I'd do it for $5 if 20 people needed it done, but I doubt I could even get 10 people.
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