R56 I KILLED my car... with the help of NCS EXPERT
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I KILLED my car... with the help of NCS EXPERT
2007 Cooper S R56
ive tried everything i read on here about coding back to default and it just wont work. i think i screwed with the kombi ecu a bit in ncs dummy, exported the file, processed it and now the car wont even start and gives weird warning lights on the tach that ive never seen before, as if they are for a different car. fuel gauge lights are gone, tacho was dead when the car was turning on earlier. i think i may have done something with the transponder coding.
i dont know what im doing and im at a loss for words.
the car literally just wont do anything.
i can get it into accessory mode and code more, but it wont reset to default (unchecked manipulate file / cleared MAN and TRC files)
and now it wont start at all. i can tell its the transponder kicking me out.
HELP PLEASE!!!
ive tried everything i read on here about coding back to default and it just wont work. i think i screwed with the kombi ecu a bit in ncs dummy, exported the file, processed it and now the car wont even start and gives weird warning lights on the tach that ive never seen before, as if they are for a different car. fuel gauge lights are gone, tacho was dead when the car was turning on earlier. i think i may have done something with the transponder coding.
i dont know what im doing and im at a loss for words.
the car literally just wont do anything.
i can get it into accessory mode and code more, but it wont reset to default (unchecked manipulate file / cleared MAN and TRC files)
and now it wont start at all. i can tell its the transponder kicking me out.
HELP PLEASE!!!
Last edited by murphysmotors; 07-18-2014 at 07:31 AM.
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Sorry to hear this and I know that you're not too keen on going to the dealer but just to give you an idea, it will cost approx. $200 to reload everything back to OEM specs by the dealer. I asked my SA about this. Again, just a distant second option if it continues to fail to start.
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i am only near one dealer, and i have never walked out of there with a bill that small, regardless of how minute the issue was. that's my real reluctance. not to mention, the tow alone would probably be another 300-400 and honestly, i really cannot afford it right now. i've been dealing with major family and pet health problems all month. it just seems to get worse and worse for me. i have no one but myself to blame.
if anyone can help at all or walk me through it, i will gladly share my contact info. i can also use team viewer so you can take over my screen.
if anyone can help at all or walk me through it, i will gladly share my contact info. i can also use team viewer so you can take over my screen.
Last edited by murphysmotors; 07-18-2014 at 07:32 AM. Reason: grammar
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yea, i think that was either right before or right after i exported a TRC file from NCS dummy after playing with the kombi selections.
i only played with kombi stuff im pretty sure. and i remember it asks if i wanted to clear some file upon exit and i hit cancel.
but afterwards when i tried to do the clean MAN files default, i tried to default all the ECUs
i only played with kombi stuff im pretty sure. and i remember it asks if i wanted to clear some file upon exit and i hit cancel.
but afterwards when i tried to do the clean MAN files default, i tried to default all the ECUs
Last edited by murphysmotors; 07-18-2014 at 09:01 AM.
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I'm on mobile right now so I can't give you the link, but search for r60 coding, there is a link for datens 51.4 or something close to that.
For others that read this thread, the first thing to do is read and save all trc and nettodata files for each module. Keep these in a safe, well labeled place, that way you can always go back.
For others that read this thread, the first thing to do is read and save all trc and nettodata files for each module. Keep these in a safe, well labeled place, that way you can always go back.
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well it can't get any worse at this point.
ill try changing all my daten files to the v45 versions
and try to reset after i do that.
i really thought there was a way to go back to default without having saved any backups. something to do with the VIN# and original VO it makes the first time you plug it in. maybe i was wrong?
ill try changing all my daten files to the v45 versions
and try to reset after i do that.
i really thought there was a way to go back to default without having saved any backups. something to do with the VIN# and original VO it makes the first time you plug it in. maybe i was wrong?
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Trust me - you have not "killed" your car or any of the ECUs in it. You CAN undo the trouble and you do not need any of the original trace files to do so.
Your problem is simply that the daten files that you used are too old for your car. It if has ever been to a dealer it likely has newer firmware than 2007. What happens then is that NCS Expert uses out-of-date configuration information in the daten files which the newer firmware in the modules doesn't understand - and you get the problems you're experiencing.
All you need to do is update your NCS Expert with newer datens and then "default" the modules (either code the module with a blank FSW_PSW.MAN file, or turn off trace file manipulation in NCS Expert). This will tell NCS Expert to load the correct, default configuration defined by the updated daten files into the module.
I'll send a PM with more info that may help out.
Your problem is simply that the daten files that you used are too old for your car. It if has ever been to a dealer it likely has newer firmware than 2007. What happens then is that NCS Expert uses out-of-date configuration information in the daten files which the newer firmware in the modules doesn't understand - and you get the problems you're experiencing.
All you need to do is update your NCS Expert with newer datens and then "default" the modules (either code the module with a blank FSW_PSW.MAN file, or turn off trace file manipulation in NCS Expert). This will tell NCS Expert to load the correct, default configuration defined by the updated daten files into the module.
I'll send a PM with more info that may help out.
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not yet. Chernobyl is simply an amazing member however and is trying to take me through the process.
battery is dead now due to all the time spent with the ignition on and car not running so im charging it now.
i will continue to try to follow his steps once i get the car charged again, as i really dont want to mess around while the car has low voltage.
if/when this gets resolved, i will be sure to write a follow up so current and future members won't have to go through what I have gone through.
thanks.
battery is dead now due to all the time spent with the ignition on and car not running so im charging it now.
i will continue to try to follow his steps once i get the car charged again, as i really dont want to mess around while the car has low voltage.
if/when this gets resolved, i will be sure to write a follow up so current and future members won't have to go through what I have gone through.
thanks.
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The car is back from the dead!
Thanks to none other than Chernobyl.
What an outstanding member, I cannot say enough.
He took the time and energy to walk me through this step by step and offered me the right software, instructions, and patience that this needed.
It is members like him that really make a community like this thrive.
So guys, if you have the same issue in the future, let me know and I will pass on his wisdom so you are not all flooding his PM box now
Again, THANK YOU SO MUCH CHERNOBYL!!!!
Thanks to none other than Chernobyl.
What an outstanding member, I cannot say enough.
He took the time and energy to walk me through this step by step and offered me the right software, instructions, and patience that this needed.
It is members like him that really make a community like this thrive.
So guys, if you have the same issue in the future, let me know and I will pass on his wisdom so you are not all flooding his PM box now
Again, THANK YOU SO MUCH CHERNOBYL!!!!
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