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Old 02-11-2009, 08:48 PM
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2010 MINI?

when will the R56 due for a face-lift?

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Old 02-11-2009, 08:57 PM
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:58 PM
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Most car manufacturers go 5 years without doing a "major" overhaul/facelift. So I'm thinking around 2012 since the new R56 came in 2007. That'd be my guess
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Just talked to MA today about this and he guessed the same as saturn and said it would likely be 2012.
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I hope there's no "facelift" next year, I just bought my car - I don't want it to get outdated in 6 to 7 months
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i was thinking the same as well, but if you look at Gen1:

2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 (face lifted), 2006

Don't you think it will be the same for Gen2

2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 ........2011, and new model at 2012
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I think most of you guys are wrong. If I'm not mistaken the mid-cycle refresh is due at the end of this year. Motoringfile seems to think so. These guys are normally spot on. I'm 100% positive it wont be 2012.

http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/...cycle-refresh/

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As is customary with BMW products, the current generation MINIs (The R55, R56 and R57 included) will undergo a mild mid-model cycle facelift sometime during it production run. While we don’t have details on the exact new look, we can shed some light on the time frame of the change. But before we do that, first let’s take a look back. The R50/R53 had it’s own nip and tuck back in the summer of 2004 (for the 2005 model year) almost 3 years to the day after it’s UK introduction and a little over two years after it was introduced in most other parts of the world (including the US).
At the time it was seen as a relatively quick facelift meant to deal with a number of teething problems early MINI owners experienced. However if you look at the general timeframe, it really didn’t differ from the typical BMW approach of mildly refreshing a model line-up around three years after its introduction. And like the R50/R53, we expect the R55, R56, R57 facelift to happen exactly three years after the introduction of the first model of the current generation - in this case the R56 in late 2006. That means we should see the first refreshed cars in late 2009 as 2010 models.
According to sources, we expect the 2nd generation facelift to be a little less thorough than what we saw with the R50/R53 in 2004. As is typical for BMW, we should expect a mild refresh of the front and rear facia with a slight redesign of the headlights and taillights. However, where the R50/R53 saw seemingly countless component changes in and outside the car, we can expect BMW to not be quite as drastic with the current generation MINI. While we personally hope the center stack design and radio interface is re-evaluated, we wouldn’t be surprised if the changes to the interior are a bit more subtle and focus on upgrades in material quality rather than outright design changes.
And like MINI’s R0/R53 mid-model cycle upgrades, we also might see a slight performance upgrade. Although how that is accomplished is pure speculation at this point.
All told, it would seem that changes to the 2010 MINI range will be a little less dramatic than what we saw with the 2005 cars and it certainly shouldn’t stop anyone from considering an ‘08 or ‘09 MINI. Especially with the Clubman and factory JCW models coming on line for the 2008 model year and rumors or a 50th anniversary MINI for the 2009.
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I think most of you guys are wrong. If I'm not mistaken the mid-cycle refresh is due at the end of this year. Motoringfile seems to think so. These guys are normally spot on. I'm 100% positive it wont be 2012.

http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/...cycle-refresh/

hrm, I'm going to waittttttttttttttttttttttttt
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I'm sure it wont be drastic! But I am curious as to what BMW/MINI has up their sleeve. Maybe make the lights look less bubbly?
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I wonder if the state of the auto industry, and economy in general, will have any effect on what is usual with MINI/BMW?
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Well, hopefully the next MINI is AWD or something... my pay is going to double in the next 2 years (love this government job), and I'm considering the next-gen Z4. Tiny car, 3.0L turbo... sounds like a lot of fun to me!

It definitely isn't as loveable as the MINI, though. I'm going to be a confused cat in 2013 when I give up the MINI!

To the bubbly headlights comment.... this car isn't supposed to be mean looking... I'm afraid if they get any less round, they will be leaving behind a basic MINI and Mini design element and heading towards every other car today.... extremely narrow and slanted "aggressive eyes" headlights.
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I heard this is what the R57 version's going to look like

















Lets hope this concept stays just that. Here's the full article on the Mini SUV concept
http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...new-suv-c.html
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Old 02-12-2009, 03:08 AM
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i just hope that awd is swapable to put in the r56
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I think most of you guys are wrong. If I'm not mistaken the mid-cycle refresh is due at the end of this year. Motoringfile seems to think so. These guys are normally spot on. I'm 100% positive it wont be 2012.

http://www.motoringfile.com/2008/01/...cycle-refresh/
There's a difference between mid-cycle refresh and new model facelift. Even motoringfile thought mid-cycle face lift would be very minor. If you are looking for major you'll have to wait until at least 2012.
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There's a difference between mid-cycle refresh and new model facelift. Even motoringfile thought mid-cycle face lift would be very minor. If you are looking for major you'll have to wait until at least 2012.
I didnt say it would be drastic. A mid-cycle refresh is a facelift. I've never heard of a new model facelift before. An all-new car would be debuting around 2012.

I mean look at the E90 3 series. It debuted in 2005. The mid-cycle refresh, also known as facelift, is on sale now. There will be no more big changes before the next generation 3 comes out. They already have test mules running around.
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Even motoringfile thought mid-cycle face lift would be very minor.
Yes, the R50 facelift was also relatively minor.
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when will the R56 due for a face-lift?

For 2010 the R56 will recieve a V-8 pushing out 425 hp and 405 lbs of torque, all-wheel drive and a weigh about 1,500 lbs more. I'd wait.
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For 2010 they will add a 2nd power outlet in the front console to charge your (insert gizmo here) while your (insert gizmo here) is connected to the original outlet.
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really do not think they would release the R56 Convertible then face lift the next year. I agree with 2012.
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see this thread on mid-cycle refresh.


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I have a question though, anybody knows what are the exact differences between the R53 engines of '02 and '05 ? Where did they get those extra 5 horses from ??

I heard it was a JCW Charger, is that true ???
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I don't want awd in a mini (current line up) as the added weight would spoil the driving characteristics. The car has plenty of traction as-is anyways.
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For 2010 the R56 will recieve a V-8 pushing out 425 hp and 405 lbs of torque, all-wheel drive and a weigh about 1,500 lbs more. I'd wait.
could you imagine.... that thing would never stay on the ground
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could you imagine.... that thing would never stay on the ground
The extra 1,500 lbs will help out with that.
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Need awd

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I don't want awd in a mini (current line up) as the added weight would spoil the driving characteristics. The car has plenty of traction as-is anyways.
Ha ha, you obviously live in California and not in a place where 500" of snow fall a year.
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