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----- All prices are current as of Jan 2009 -----------------------------
The windscreen has gone through some changes and testing and is available for sale. You can contact me: Via PM, email at brownflyer2000@hotmail.com, everardoval@netzero.net or phone 707-330-5823.
Price:
Standard all Black Double Zipper---------------------$200
Add color stitching ----------------------------------$15
Read on for all the details...
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Hey folks, I just received the first prototype of an aftermarket wind screen.
This one goes between the seats (see pics) and allows the use of the rear seat.
Very easy to put on and take off and works extremely well. I tested it over the weekend and was loving it.
I took a close up pic of the mesh material but just a couple of days ago I came across the material that Mini uses on their wind screen and the next one will have that material.
This is something I've been working on as part of the rear seat wind screen or I should say "wind reduction project" of mine (you know, the kids love the top down but hate the wind).
The guy that's putting them together will be working on the next one this week so if there is any interest, pm me so I can let him know.
Last edited by brownflyer; 10-03-2009 at 07:31 PM.
Reason: Edited by poster request
I'm VERY interested in a review of the "new" one with the finer mesh, and particularly the effect, if any, it has for rear seat passengers... (or if this, plus a smaller version for the rear headrests, helps out the back seat. My back seat occupants are short - so if it just would create a less windy zone below the seatbacks, that would be a victory...
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Definitely interested in hearing how this affects air flow in the front and the back. I have the OEM wind screen, but don't use it as often as I'd like, cause I transport my two boys frequently. It would be nice to have something that reduces air in the front, without the need to remove it to use the back seat and reduce the air in the back. I'll anxious to hear more!!!
Nicely done! I am very interested in learning more about this. I was driving behind a TT today and admiring the compact windscreen that allows access to the rear seat. I was thinking how nice that would be in the MINI. Any idea how far you are from production/sale???
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All great questions, so I'll try to answer some of them.
Price: I had a conversation with Carlos today (the guy that's putting them together and who has all the upholstery experience, I'm providing the engenering & design, sort of) says that something like this should go for around $200. I think it shouldn't go for more than $175. What do guys/gals think? What would you be willing to pay for it?
Field testing: Yes, I've been usign it for the last 2 days and it makes a big difference (very subjective, sorry). But I do believe that the new fabric will be even better. There are some differences I've noticed vs. OEM. The reason the mesh was exteded down to the lower part of the seats was because the air flows right between the seats and even a small opening allows for this flow. The OEM has the section that goes over the rear seat and this stop this air flow. Also, the opening left by the OEM from the edge of the upright section to the window is smaller that this one from the head rest to the window. So, there's more air flow in this section as well. How much more? To me it's not significant but I'm doing more testing. Also, with all windows down the air flow is less erratic with this wind screen vs. OEM. At times I felt my Mini cap almost come off with the OEM. Whereas, this one I haven't felt that sudden jolt of wind wanting to take my cap off. As for the rear seat, I have not tested air flow back there yet. I'll post a pic of my prototype 3 piece screen for the back.
Rear seat access: The second to the last pic in the original posting is one of both seats forward to allow for access/egress. A single seat will be limited to the amount it moves forward. The materials are non stretch. I will post a pic of that manuever as well. You could easily unhook and remove the head piece in a matter of seconds.
Lastly: Would someone here on NAM be willing to do field testing and provide us with a review in return for a nice discount on a wind screen? PM me if interested.
This is how far forward the seat reclines with the windscreen on. Realistically, it doesn't provide you with access. You have to remove the headreast piece as the elastic stretches enough, or recline both seats. They don't have to be done at the same time. You do one and once you do the second the auto forward feature of the seat kicks in. The next one is with both seats fully reclined forward and windscreen on.
And this last one is of the prototype 3 piece rear system. This one has some flaws and that's not what's going to get produced. I'm designing something similar.
Last edited by brownflyer; 05-01-2007 at 10:09 AM.
says that something like this should go for around $200. I think it shouldn't go for more than $175. What do guys/gals think? What would you be willing to pay for it?
Sell at $200 to the general public and offer an occasional NAM group buy.
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Originally Posted by brownflyer
The reason the mesh was exteded down to the lower part of the seats was because the air flows right between the seats and even a small opening allows for this flow.
Your prototype was made to fit your armrest. Don't forget to check operation without an armrest. You may need to offer two versions or a way to accomodate both.
For myself, I am primarily interested in what can be done for rear passengers, so it is the combination of both front and rear screens that I'd be interested in. When passengers are in the back, the front already has a comfort advantage and I feel a certain obligation to suffer along a bit rather than giving the front an additional advantage of a wind deflector if it doesn't help the rear. When there are no rear passengers, I already have an OEM wind deflector.
Your prototype was made to fit your armrest. Don't forget to check operation without an armrest. You may need to offer two versions or a way to accomodate both.
That's a good point, rkw. It wouldn't be difficult to just extend the back piece a bit more to cover that space.
There is absolutely no way that I could ever eliminate any wind intrusion/turbulence. The question really becomes 'Does the benefit outweigh the cost' and at the suggested price point that would be a definite YES in my mind. But, lets wait for the findings of the independent panel of guinea pigs. Heck, I spend that kind of money on a single night out on the town (specially with two little ones...).
I also would be interested in testing/buying one of these. I love the fact that I can still have my kids in the back with this type of windscreen.
Is there any noise from the material or straps flapping against the seats at all?
From these pictures I can see that I would like the material to be more snugged around the headrests. Possibly even wrapping around the bottom of the headrest more so no edges show. (talking about the sides) Would give it a more clean look. Maybe use a bungey/elastic material so the headrest parts wrap and caress the headrest tightly o_O. I like good fitment on my parts
Good fitment is high in my book as well. That's one of the items I will be addressing with Carlos this evening. I already have a list of changes for the next prototype.
As for flapping noice. None. Everything is snugly secured.
This looks incredibly promising. The only thing I would suggest is making at least part of it into a stretchy material so that you can drop the front seats or slide them without having to take the windscreen off. If you can achieve this I will buy one without question.
Just a quick update. I had a conversation with Carlos yesterday and he will be working on the 3 new prototypes this weekend. They should be ready early next week. There will be some nice changes made to it.
I'll keep you posted.
P.s. if anybody wants to email me direct here is my email: everardoval@netzero.net
Would this material come in different colors to match peoples interiors?
I noticed in your pictures that the material is blue.
My interior is black and that is the color that I would want
'05 MCSc Jet Black - "Magic 8 Ball" 
Heck, I spend that kind of money on a single night out on the town (specially with two little ones...).
