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Old 06-19-2016, 03:03 PM
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Replaced clutch now it wont turn over

I just replaced the clutch in my R53. After putting it back together I was able to start it a few times but half the time it didn't seem to like any of the gears then all of the sudden it just started going into gear I was able to reverse it out of my garage and onto the street when i put it in first I killed it and it has not wanted to start since when i turn the ignition on the engine will rotate as i can see the pulleys moving it but it wont start or turn over any ideas im at a lost
 
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also forgot to mention we cant bump start it either. we have tried doing in 1st and 2nd but when we drop the clutch it just dead stops
 
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Old 06-19-2016, 06:18 PM
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Did it run ok when you had it running?

Did it have issues before you did the clutch?

Also you said two different things, you said it turns over then you said it doesn't turn over. Did it stop turning over?

Could be anything, obviously recheck everything. Charge/change the battery since it sounds like you killed it. Car has to be moving pretty fast to bump start it but it will be better to just fix the battery first if it's dead.
 
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Car seemed to be running fine when we had it running battery sat over night in a deepcycle charge and is brand new. when i try to start it the pulleys on the side will move but the engine will not fire. It also had no issues when i went to do the clutch besides the clutch. How ever i can not turn the engine by hand with a ratchet when it is on the crank shaft pulley
 
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:50 PM
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Did you disconnect the slave cylinder line? Wondering if there was air in the line and thats why you couldn't get it into a gear at first.

Dumb question probably but was it in neutral when you tried to turn it over by hand? Maybe you had the car jacked up though while you tried the crank pulley.

You could also try taking the belt off to rule out a seized pulley. Highly unlikely since it was fine before but you never know.

Sucks, but if you can't turn it over with a wrench I can't think of anything else other than the clutch that would prevent it from turning over.
 
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well im going to feel dumb but does the engine rotate clock wise or counter clock wise if you are facing the pulleys my starter is trying to turn the engine clock wise
 
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You should be able to spin the engine in either direction with a wrench.

Im not sure if something bad will happen if you turn it too much in the wrong direction, but it will go either way.
 
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also forgot to mention we cant bump start it either. we have tried doing in 1st and 2nd but when we drop the clutch it just dead stops
Not surprised, popping the clutch in such a low gear. You need to use 3rd.

If the clutch won't disengage fully (air in the line, bad slave cylinder, bad install, etc), the starter might overcome friction but it won't start with so much drag. Test by putting it in gear and checking if you can roll the car freely with the clutch depressed.
 
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well i took it apart again and i still cant spin the motor clockwise
 
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It won't spin at all with the transmission off? Did you take the clutch off too? Did the clutch,pressure plate, and flywheel look ok?

If the engine won't spin with the tranny off I don't know what it could be. Did you try with the belt off? Although I can't imagine the belt being stronger than your ratchet or bar if a pulley was seized.

Something broken in the engine maybe? You said it ran fine though. Very strange.
 
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it looks like the pulley seized and we are thinking its the super charger
 
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