R50/53 best spark plugs with mods
#26
I just put a new set of NGK iridiums in pulling out my older ones. The car pulled better and ran smoother as well, this is normal as the plugs are new.
Listen, my only beef with Brisk were the few that I saw that were broken and a few from another person that I spoke to that had also seen issues with them. I would rather recommend something that is solid that I have tested and know works well.
Listen, my only beef with Brisk were the few that I saw that were broken and a few from another person that I spoke to that had also seen issues with them. I would rather recommend something that is solid that I have tested and know works well.
#27
We have found that the multi extended ground straps burns up faster under high load conditions like track use, thats the main reason we quit using them. They also didnt make the same power for as long as the Brisk in our testing, most likely because of ground strap failure. The Brisk uses an extended center electrode so none of the spark is covered which helped power and cylinder burn, the ground strap is thicker and closer to the head so it cools a little better and lasted a little longer in our track cars.
We have found that indexing plugs in centered valve designs and offset valve older designs had the same effect. Gap to the exhaust side worked better.
You are all welcome to come to the shop or the track with us and watch the testing and racing in person. If you watch our wind tunnel video, we try vortex generators and they dont work as good as I wanted so we dont sell them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iCQ6kPe9EYOur main job is to build winning race cars for customers in the shop.
I understand if you want to recommend something that you use and like and I can too. I never said the NGKs didnt work just that we found the Brisk worked better. But I'm very disappointed when people tell me I'm making things up. I believe this would upset anyone. I own a chassis dyno and have done hundreds of track days testing the parts we make and recommend, so I can tell people what I found that works and doesnt work.
Chris Sneed
We have found that indexing plugs in centered valve designs and offset valve older designs had the same effect. Gap to the exhaust side worked better.
You are all welcome to come to the shop or the track with us and watch the testing and racing in person. If you watch our wind tunnel video, we try vortex generators and they dont work as good as I wanted so we dont sell them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iCQ6kPe9EYOur main job is to build winning race cars for customers in the shop.
I understand if you want to recommend something that you use and like and I can too. I never said the NGKs didnt work just that we found the Brisk worked better. But I'm very disappointed when people tell me I'm making things up. I believe this would upset anyone. I own a chassis dyno and have done hundreds of track days testing the parts we make and recommend, so I can tell people what I found that works and doesnt work.
Chris Sneed
Last edited by SneedSpeed; 02-13-2012 at 06:38 AM.
#28
#30
I understand if you want to recommend something that you use and like and I can too. I never said the NGKs didnt work just that we found the Brisk worked better. But I'm very disappointed when people tell me I'm making things up. I believe this would upset anyone. I own a chassis dyno and have done hundreds of track days testing the parts we make and recommend, so I can tell people what I found that works and doesnt work.
Chris Sneed
#31
I hate being called a liar too. I still have the perfect looking plugs I pulled out. Want me to mail one to you?
And if the reason that my Brisk plugs ran better was because they were new and the iridium ones were "old", well it kind of disproves the whole longevity theory. If iridium plugs go bad in a few months, then you might as well use silver.
And if the reason that my Brisk plugs ran better was because they were new and the iridium ones were "old", well it kind of disproves the whole longevity theory. If iridium plugs go bad in a few months, then you might as well use silver.
#32
I hate being called a liar too. I still have the perfect looking plugs I pulled out. Want me to mail one to you?
And if the reason that my Brisk plugs ran better was because they were new and the iridium ones were "old", well it kind of disproves the whole longevity theory. If iridium plugs go bad in a few months, then you might as well use silver.
And if the reason that my Brisk plugs ran better was because they were new and the iridium ones were "old", well it kind of disproves the whole longevity theory. If iridium plugs go bad in a few months, then you might as well use silver.
Butt dynos aside, if Chris is going to post solid numbers as a vendor, (not even something that Brisk does) then he better have proof to back it.
#34
You can run stock plugs on a 15% pulley with no problems. That being said, you can also go one step colder to help with moving heat later. Basically there is no need to swap right away.
#36
I found a graph of a BMW Brisk/NGK test we did 2 weeks ago. The MINI testing was all done in 2007 and 2008 so I'm still looking though the files for it. This graph is a good example though, the NGK plugs were new and the Brisk plugs were new. http://www.sneed4speed.com/bmw-spark...sign-set-of-6/
#37
I found a graph of a BMW Brisk/NGK test we did 2 weeks ago. The MINI testing was all done in 2007 and 2008 so I'm still looking though the files for it. This graph is a good example though, the NGK plugs were new and the Brisk plugs were new. http://www.sneed4speed.com/bmw-spark...sign-set-of-6/
Meh, you know what, I don't really care anymore. There is simply no way that I would ever spend that kind of money on plugs for claims of 2WHP when I could spend it on something else that might provide me with more. I have stated my peace about Brisk and why and it was backed by a few vendors that have been around so I'll stick with recommending NGK.
#38
#39
Meh, you know what, I don't really care anymore. There is simply no way that I would ever spend that kind of money on plugs for claims of 2WHP when I could spend it on something else that might provide me with more. I have stated my peace about Brisk and why and it was backed by a few vendors that have been around so I'll stick with recommending NGK.
Personally I don't really "believe" one way or the other on this, and I continue to welcome more investigation. If I have the time, I will definitely buy some fresh iridium plugs and see if I can tell any improvement or loss compared with my 2,000 mile old silver plugs. I've put new plugs in a lot of cars and motorcycles for the last 20 years or so, and the only time I noticed any improvement was when I put in silver plugs. But that is only one data point.
If silver plugs cost $60, then $30 per whp is the one of the best bangs for the buck around.
#40
To the OP, I still recommend the tried and true NGK plug over Brisk.
#41
Plug in your car information.
One step colder would be a "7" instead of a "6" in the model number.
#44
Im in need of a plug change bad...its been about 2+ years since they were last changed...but the engine runs as smooth as ever. Sooooo ???? guess I will go with the NGK ones a step colder...didnt see them on Autozone web page but came across these weird things expensive as hell..
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#46
spark plugs
hi peeps, i have a doubt regarding spark plugs...since i've installed the nology hot wires, do i need to change the spark plug as well. Does this make any significant changes in terms of the engine performance..
another question...i have also installed a new high cam, alta open port, alta 15% pulleys and fox exhaust system with full piping...i havent collected my car yet...what other minor mods i can possibly do without touching the head??
another question...i have also installed a new high cam, alta open port, alta 15% pulleys and fox exhaust system with full piping...i havent collected my car yet...what other minor mods i can possibly do without touching the head??
#47
You should not have to change your plugs "because of the wires", but with the mods you've mentioned make sure you are running one step colder of a plug than stock. (NGK would be BKR7EIX).
As far as additional mods, except for a head, the only things I could see are a header (I'm unfamiliar with the exhaust you mention so I don't know if it includes a header or not), 380cc or larger injectors, and a custom tune, thats about it.
As far as additional mods, except for a head, the only things I could see are a header (I'm unfamiliar with the exhaust you mention so I don't know if it includes a header or not), 380cc or larger injectors, and a custom tune, thats about it.
#48
You should not have to change your plugs "because of the wires", but with the mods you've mentioned make sure you are running one step colder of a plug than stock. (NGK would be BKR7EIX).
As far as additional mods, except for a head, the only things I could see are a header (I'm unfamiliar with the exhaust you mention so I don't know if it includes a header or not), 380cc or larger injectors, and a custom tune, thats about it.
As far as additional mods, except for a head, the only things I could see are a header (I'm unfamiliar with the exhaust you mention so I don't know if it includes a header or not), 380cc or larger injectors, and a custom tune, thats about it.