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Just finished reading the new Car & Drivers Super Tuner Shoot Out for 4 bangers.....had the Mini Mania MCS entered with all the mods totaling $44,260, laugh !
245 hp according to Mini Mania....the car finished 3rd in the front wheel overall catagory which was pretty good, but it finished 1st in the Road Course for front wheelers and beat almost all the rear wheelers on the road course including the Honda S2000 (350hp-$68K) and just slightly behind the WRX (450hp-$86K) & Evo (341hp-$39K)
what I was suprised with was how poor the 1/4 mile time was for the MCS especially with all the mods to get to 245 hp....15.7 sec and 97 mph.....for over 20K in mods, seems rather modest compared to the stock MCS.....
anyway the road course results shows it is not all about horsepower....interesting read...the last part was especially funny when they took out the $56K Z06 Corvette for the test and it blew everyone away, laugh !
I think that Car and drive Messed up. I know that my car which was stock, ran a 15.57 in the 1/4, and with pulley and exchaust, cars should be in the low 15's. With that much, they should be in the 14 second area
<LI>There was a SUBSTANTIAL headwind on the drag straight, like "we're not in Kansas anymore" kinda wind. That caused very poor times in low displacement engines, like the MINI's 1.6, not to mention it's bricklike coefficient of drag. If you'll read the rest of the car's times, you'll see that the MINI was far from the only car out there putting down poor times.
<LI>Car & Driver misquoted their own figures. The 130-0 braking length was 534, not the 554 the quick specs show you.
I know that my car which was stock, ran a 15.57 in the 1/4, and with pulley and exchaust, cars should be in the low 15's.
yEP you are right, the driver messed up or there is a miss print somewere, because there is a 13's mini modded out with that much Hp, that I have seen.
>>They had the base price of the MINI listed at $38,000.....WTF?
"2002 Mini Madness Mini Cooper S
Vehicle type: front-engine, front-wheel-drive, 2+2-passenger, 3-door coupe
Price as tested: $44,260 (base price*: $38,550)
*Base price includes all performance-enhancing options."
Did you notice the car DID NOT have a strutbrace or a good intercooler
I saw the mag too. Head wind or not, it still ran a 97 mph trap speed (better than stock and in stang territory). IMO, it lost all of its torque down low or the tester lit 'em up at the start-- I mean REALLY lit 'em up.
I was told something like 50 mph headwind. I dunno how much that actually affects the results. Know it does, just not by how much. Plus, if there was a wind of that force whipping the track, not only would it have been unsafe, but all the results are BS and shouldn't have been published.
Which leads to my opinion on C&D-- Their history seems quite biased to the american v8. Imports (except BMW/Porche/Ferrari/Lambo) need not apply. How considerate they are to show up with a corvette.....
